In The News

[426Buddy]

Reading and comprehension, it's rarer than gold these days.

[Baron Von Marlon]

They're real deaths, but a death being reported to VAERS does not mean the vaccine CAUSED the death.

Ok, so that whole counter is just fake? Again, not addressed at anyone in particular, just questioning things in general.

And let's say there are actual side effects, including possible deaths, where would one find those numbers? And how can one know those numbers are accurate.

Reading and comprehension, it's rarer than gold these days.

So is empathy for people who's first language isn't English.

[BigDaddyJohn]

The major problem with vaccines appears to be ineficiency I'd say. Numbers of vaccinated people being admitted in hospitals is almost the same (with almost the same death ratio) as non-vaccinated ones in my country.

I'm talking about people listed with same characteristics in both cases (age, other health conditions etc). That's a problem.

[Crazy Rich]

I'd like to see sources for that.

[SiL]

Ok, so that whole counter is just fake? Again, not addressed at anyone in particular, just questioning things in general.

And let's say there are actual side effects, including possible deaths, where would one find those numbers? And how can one know those numbers are accurate.

The counter is not fake. It's just that VAERS collects reports for anything that goes wrong after someone has had a vaccine - those reports then need to be investigated to see if the vaccine was the cause.

There are side effects. Most government health sites report them.

The major problem with vaccines appears to be ineficiency I'd say. Numbers of vaccinated people being admitted in hospitals is almost the same (with almost the same death ratio) as non-vaccinated ones in my country.

I'm talking about people listed with same characteristics in both cases (age, other health conditions etc). That's a problem.

Which country? Which vaccine? Almost 100% of COVID deaths in the US are unvaccinated people now for example.

[BigDaddyJohn]

In France, and it was the Pfizer one. My personal view is that the vaccine has eficiency, but perhaps not as much as advertised, which would not be the first time.

[SiL]

Are you able to provide sources? I can't find anything saying France is having as many vaccinated as unvaccinated hospitalized or dying.

[Crazy Rich]

I find it to be a rather bold claim that would surely have credible sources to back it up if it were at all true.

[BigDaddyJohn]

Currently searching in more depth, and thus far those claims are mainly backed up by a french anti vaccine doctor, so indeed it could be taken with a grain of salt.

However, I just saw that Israel, who have the highest percentage of vaccinated people, saw the contamination rate rise again. It was publicly stated by the country's health department. I don't know what to think at this point.

[Baron Von Marlon]

Anyone heard of the Ivermectin issue? 

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1406582920043769860

The counter is not fake. It's just that VAERS collects reports for anything that goes wrong after someone has had a vaccine - those reports then need to be investigated to see if the vaccine was the cause.

There are side effects. Most government health sites report them.

So counter real? Numbers not?
One would like to think a site like that would wait until investigations before posting numbers.

The major problem with vaccines appears to be ineficiency I'd say. Numbers of vaccinated people being admitted in hospitals is almost the same (with almost the same death ratio) as non-vaccinated ones in my country.

I'm talking about people listed with same characteristics in both cases (age, other health conditions etc). That's a problem.

Read the same about Israel.

[SiL]

VAERS is where everything that happens after someone gets a vaccine is reported. Everything. It then gets researched from there.

The issue isn't them reporting numbers early, the issue is people not understanding what VAERS actually keeps track of. It is not a record of confirmed side effects.

[Huggs]

We must protect our precious bodily fluids.

[Samhain13]

Indeed.

[Local Trouble]

Testosterone?

[Huggs]

The essence, Mandrake.