Quote from: broughtpain on Jan 22, 2016, 09:24:09 PM
1. Russia's history is far worse than that of the United States.
That's because Russia's documented history reaches further back than ours.
Quote2. I said Russia pushes propaganda through special interest groups. The communist movement that put a chokehold on parts of the black community that began around 1930 was directed by none other than Joseph Stalin(the guy that killed his own people for the establishment of a godless state without property rights). Other special interest groups relative to everything from feminism to environmentalism to lawyers condemned the Iraq war while the SCRs did, in fact, provide the endeavor legally.
Still not getting exactly what you're implying. Don't want to put words in your mouth.
Quote3. Our involvement in other countries hasn't historically led to the picture of the president of the United States on billboards and the sides of buildings like in Cuba and Venezuela nor do we push the issue to the point of a letter being read to the masses as happened as though POTUS was addressing subjects in another country as happened with Putin's letter in Egypt not to long ago.
We don't need too. It's all baked into the Western entertainment industry etc., which is worldwide and dominating hard. Cultural imperialism for the win.
Quote4. Again, we aren't so adamant about domination that we annex territory and invade areas then unilaterally declare them independent.
Again, because we don't need to. It's good to be king; the American century continues.
QuoteWhen you consider the history of the United States, do you consider it relative to that of other countries in the same time frame or what you consider morally superior by today's standards?
The former, but without rationalizing the facts of the past or the effect and imprint it has on the present as well as the future. So in a way it's both actually.
QuoteWhen you take offense to the involvement of the United States in other countries, do you take offense to other countries being involved in other countries for the same reasons and by the same standard?
Of course, but it also depends on the state of the countries. You can't expect a war torn undemocratic country ridden with corruption, lawlessness and failing infrastructure to live up to the same standards as an orderly democratic country with all ducks in a row. I expect more from let's say Japan or Sweden than I do from Somalia or Afghanistan.
QuoteDo you believe that history should only be recalled for the offense as to demonstrate the current state of affairs?
Of course history should be acknowledged and always be kept in mind when it comes to the current state of affairs. History is a bunch of chains leading to where we are now. Actions have consequences. For example, the Middle-East isn't the mess it is simply because of Islam - it's the result of colonialism, imperialism, tribalism, oil, unresolved religious disputes, world wars and the cold war, and as we all know the West played a big part, if not the biggest part, in those events. We pretty much created it but never took or take blame for it. We often talk about the problems in the Middle-East as if they happened on their own conveniently leaving ourselves out of the picture. It's easy to glorify oneself and condemn and distance oneself from others when you feel like you're not a part of their problems whatsoever.
