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Vertigo

Vertigo

#11130
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 08, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
A referendum which is going to be pointless. Looks like the majority of Britain stands for the dismantling of the NHS, zero hour contracts, food banks, welfare cuts across the board and David Cameron looking after his rich pals.

Well, those particular points are varying degrees of bullshit, but the votership certainly did choose massive cuts to welfare, attacking the most vulnerable people in our society.

I think the dominance of SNP and annihilation of Labour in Scotland had a lot to do with leadership. Nicola Sturgeon's extremely impressive, Ed Miliband not so much. It's something which merits deeper analysis though.
My guess, the campaigning over Scottish independence resulted in a rise of nationalism in the region, and even if secession was ultimately rejected, it provoked a greater need for Scottish interests to be dominant in the union, and to reject parties seen as English.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11131
Sorry for my lack of UK political understanding but basically the equivalent of the American tea party won in the UK right? So Briton is heading back on the war path once again?

Samayel

Samayel

#11132
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 08, 2015, 03:46:56 PM
Are you seriously blaming the NHS problems on migrants? Ever since it's creation the NHS has been a cash cow. People are not going to vote us out of the EU because they see more good comes from it.

The SNP did well because of Labour doing badly to put it simply. What the Scottish haven't realised is that although they did well in getting SNP a fair number of seats there's still a Tory government reigning over them. I'm still trying wrap my head around the number of people who voted Tory. Guess alot of people didn't want Scots in power.

The socialists had their chance, near two decades of it. They blew it, and the English instinct for self preservation kicked in. The Marxist minority that has bullied and marginalised the indigenous population has been neutralised as political force. They ignored elementary logic, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Bet a few around here will have heard that before.

Hubbs

Hubbs

#11133
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 08, 2015, 03:46:56 PM
Are you seriously blaming the NHS problems on migrants? Ever since it's creation the NHS has been a cash cow. People are not going to vote us out of the EU because they see more good comes from it.

The SNP did well because of Labour doing badly to put it simply. What the Scottish haven't realised is that although they did well in getting SNP a fair number of seats there's still a Tory government reigning over them. I'm still trying wrap my head around the number of people who voted Tory. Guess alot of people didn't want Scots in power.

The NHS can't cope anymore, its at breaking point, and I'm blaming that on the masses of extra people, so yes the migrants. Its really very simple, the population in the UK has risen dramatically and keeps doing so every year (up to 500,000 people coming in per year, give or take). Because of this the NHS is dealing with huge numbers of people constantly and its on the increase, this is why the NHS is being stretched. You only have to go to a hospital to see for yourself, or even your doctors.

You have to remember that the EU doesn't care about the freedom of movement act or the immigrants. Why you ask? because every country in the EU knows that the majority of all immigrants go to the UK!!!! They just let them all pass through to us! only France, Sweden and Germany get large numbers but that pails in comparison to the numbers we get.

I'm afraid the NHS is doomed if this carries on, all this immigration will turn around and bite this country on the arse one day because our infrastructure cannot deal with all these people. I think people forget how small the UK is (England fits into the state of Florida with room to spare. The UK fits into the state of Texas with room to spare). Unfortunately there are far too many people who refuse to accept this and merely state its racist to even think this way. Another reason why the Liberals have been destroyed, many in the UK are sick of PC Liberals.

And yes no one in England, Ireland or Wales wanted the Scots ruling the UK, that is why there was a panic voting spree for the Tories, hence the clear landslide when before hand it was neck and neck. The SNP said outright they would do anything to stop Cameron getting in, this would include going into a coalition with Labour, no one wanted that. The SNP basically destroyed Labour, UKIP and the Lib Dems by taking so much power, people in England, Wales and Ireland had no choice but to vote Tory to stop the Scots getting power over the UK.

As for the referendum its hard to say, it costs the UK around 20billion a year to be in the EU (we do get some back). What do we get from this? where does all that money go? wouldn't it be better spent on our NHS, our roads, our schools etc...The UK is on a high right now that's true, but it won't last, the crash will come and when it does it will be hard for an aging heavily overpopulated small island with nothing to offer. Of course then all the people that came into the country will up and leave  ::)  >:(


Quote from: whiterabbit on May 08, 2015, 10:41:29 PM
Sorry for my lack of UK political understanding but basically the equivalent of the American tea party won in the UK right? So Briton is heading back on the war path once again?

Not exactly no, but the Conservatives have promised a referendum on whether to stay or leave the EU, hopefully the UK will vote to leave. This has the rest of Europe shitting themselves of course because if the UK leaves the EU then the masses won't be able to come here and leech off us  -_-

Oh and the precious EU won't be getting around 20billion of us each year for nothing  -_-

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11134
The EU was created to contest NAFTA... considering the UK is an island nation I don't see how leaving the EU is a good thing at all for anyone. Especially over a mere 20 billion a year. The hit to the UK's credit rating alone will erase any savings. So it probably won't happen.

Hubbs

Hubbs

#11135
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
The EU was created to contest NAFTA... considering the UK is an island nation I don't see how leaving the EU is a good thing at all for anyone. Especially over a mere 20 billion a year. The hit to the UK's credit rating alone will erase any savings. So it probably won't happen.

20billion!!! and its totally wasted on nothing! That money every year could solve a lot of our problems like the NHS, sheesh!

Leaving won't effect anything, no one is gonna stop trading with us because we leave the EU, we are the UK for Christ's sake. That's just scaremongering (mainly by the EU) because they know they'll lose one of their biggest tax payers (UK is one of the countries paying the most for the privilege of being in the EU). Other big countries (France, Italy, Germany, Spain etc...) don't want us to leave because they know with the UK out then none of the immigrants can go there anymore and they'll all end up in those other countries. The whole thing is a twisted mess which the UK is always losing out on because we are the bitches of Europe basically, total doormat of Europe.

All the EU does is give the poorer Euro countries a place for their people to emigrate too ::) It doesn't benefit the richer countries at all as far as I'm concerned.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11136
Quote from: Hubbs on May 09, 2015, 08:00:23 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
The EU was created to contest NAFTA... considering the UK is an island nation I don't see how leaving the EU is a good thing at all for anyone. Especially over a mere 20 billion a year. The hit to the UK's credit rating alone will erase any savings. So it probably won't happen.

20billion!!! and its totally wasted on nothing! That money every year could solve a lot of our problems like the NHS, sheesh!

Leaving won't effect anything, no one is gonna stop trading with us because we leave the EU, we are the UK for Christ's sake. That's just scaremongering (mainly by the EU) because they know they'll lose one of their biggest tax payers (UK is one of the countries paying the most for the privilege of being in the EU). Other big countries (France, Italy, Germany, Spain etc...) don't want us to leave because they know with the UK out then none of the immigrants can go there anymore and they'll all end up in those other countries. The whole thing is a twisted mess which the UK is always losing out on because we are the bitches of Europe basically, total doormat of Europe.

All the EU does is give the poorer Euro countries a place for their people to emigrate too ::) It doesn't benefit the richer countries at all as far as I'm concerned.
Don't forget about all those glorious aquariums you guys paid Spain to build for themselves and us American tourist. Still I don't think pulling out is a good idea, those billions are an investment in a greater political system. I know unlike the US you guys have a shit ton more "history" between each other; but I think it's too late to pull out, it'd be like California pulling out of the USA. Well I suppose you could team up with Norway and Russia. :)

Hubbs

Hubbs

#11137
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 09, 2015, 08:00:23 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
The EU was created to contest NAFTA... considering the UK is an island nation I don't see how leaving the EU is a good thing at all for anyone. Especially over a mere 20 billion a year. The hit to the UK's credit rating alone will erase any savings. So it probably won't happen.

20billion!!! and its totally wasted on nothing! That money every year could solve a lot of our problems like the NHS, sheesh!

Leaving won't effect anything, no one is gonna stop trading with us because we leave the EU, we are the UK for Christ's sake. That's just scaremongering (mainly by the EU) because they know they'll lose one of their biggest tax payers (UK is one of the countries paying the most for the privilege of being in the EU). Other big countries (France, Italy, Germany, Spain etc...) don't want us to leave because they know with the UK out then none of the immigrants can go there anymore and they'll all end up in those other countries. The whole thing is a twisted mess which the UK is always losing out on because we are the bitches of Europe basically, total doormat of Europe.

All the EU does is give the poorer Euro countries a place for their people to emigrate too ::) It doesn't benefit the richer countries at all as far as I'm concerned.
Don't forget about all those glorious aquariums you guys paid Spain to build for themselves and us American tourist. Still I don't think pulling out is a good idea, those billions are an investment in a greater political system. I know unlike the US you guys have a shit ton more "history" between each other; but I think it's too late to pull out, it'd be like California pulling out of the USA. Well I suppose you could team up with Norway and Russia. :)

Switzerland.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11138
Oh man that sounds like the perfect war machine if I ever heard one. The UK, Russia, Norway and Switzerland. No wait that would just be another EU + Russia. You know... we have hotdogs and Tatars tots over here. Sort of like fish and chips. How about it? US AND the UK, one happy family reunion. I joke of course. :P

hfeldhaus

hfeldhaus

#11139
Quote from: Vertigo on May 08, 2015, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 08, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
A referendum which is going to be pointless. Looks like the majority of Britain stands for the dismantling of the NHS, zero hour contracts, food banks, welfare cuts across the board and David Cameron looking after his rich pals.

Well, those particular points are varying degrees of bullshit, but the votership certainly did choose massive cuts to welfare, attacking the most vulnerable people in our society.

I think the dominance of SNP and annihilation of Labour in Scotland had a lot to do with leadership. Nicola Sturgeon's extremely impressive, Ed Miliband not so much. It's something which merits deeper analysis though.
My guess, the campaigning over Scottish independence resulted in a rise of nationalism in the region, and even if secession was ultimately rejected, it provoked a greater need for Scottish interests to be dominant in the union, and to reject parties seen as English.

It's not Bullshit when you have a food bank around the corner from your house and you see your neighbours in there almost daily. It's not Bullshit when your employer gives out zero hour contracts left right and center like mine does. I'm relatively lucky that I am in a good job and can provide for my family. What i have seen is friends and family being cast aside for the past 5 years and most likely for another 5 now. People didn't vote Tory for stability they voted to keep the Scots from ruining this nation.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#11140
I saw this this morning on Facebook and made me say, "Whoa."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/10/great-white-close-up_n_7253888.html
QuoteA terrifying photo of a great white shark, mouth open and just inches from a photographer's hands, isn't what it seems to be.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11141
All I see are idiots training Sharks to associate boats with food. Which is essentially inserting the "man" into man-eater.

Vertigo

Vertigo

#11142
Meh, not really. It's pretty rare for people to get attacked near boats, and researchers/tourists/naturalists have been tossing bait overboard to attract sharks for a very long time.

Great whites are generally extremely cautious, and if they come to a boat expecting a chunk of meat but find a diver, their initial response is to hang back, circle and watch. Every so often you encounter a belligerent shark that gets too close or even bites, but does so out of territoriality or getting too curious. It's extremely rare for them to attack people specifically for food (aside from mistaken identity, when the shark's hunting for fish, turtles or seals) - presumably because we're nutrient poor, and they seem to know it.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11143
The idea is that people hang around boats and it is altering the habit of a major predator. Just like pulling Styrofoam seals behind a boat is training Pacific ocean great white sharks to breach where as that used to be a South African great white trait.

Taking it to a smaller scale, people used to be able to feed the fish at hanauma bay but that practice was stopped when the fish started to attack swimmers/snorkelers who would not feed them. We see the same thing with shark diving too. The business owners claim it's safe because they do it miles out to sea but it doesn't take a genius to notice how less afraid sharks are becoming near shore. Primarily because they are the same sharks. Usually when we go diving sharks will always keep their distance but several years ago they would just come straight up to our faces to grab speared fish or even nip at my fins. We even see them mingling with completely unaware swimmers near the tide line. That's not just a mere coincidence.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#11144
Well they didn't bait that great white. It approached on its own.

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