Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 19, 2024, 01:25:57 AMI see someone never played AvP Classic.
Oh the joy of almost flying through those levels with absolutely no way to properly orient yourself. I miss that game.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Jan 19, 2024, 01:35:11 AMHowever true the movies show differently due to the constraints of film technology of the time.
If they wanted the things to fly around at 40mph they could've. Especially the runner, which was not constrained by being a man in a suit. And that's the one they explicitly show being outrun.
Repeatedly.
QuoteFrom what I've read standard non military grade ballistic rounds do not seem to do much damage to them. Which is why they used explosive tipped rounds.
We saw some pistol rounds bouncing off at range, but also pistol rounds blowing their heads open up close. Regardless, the movies show the heavy duty military guns being used so I don't see why there's an issue with Aliens being killed by them.
QuoteI will admit at least if the human was a one in a million mentally tough individual and also had explosive tipped rounds and grenades then sure, but that isn't going to be the standard situation.
I'm sorry, do all soldiers just go into a fetal position at the sign of a threat ... ?
I'm really not sure what point you're trying to get at here. You're saying the Aliens shouldn't be losing, but then keep giving examples that aren't what we see in the actual movies. You're acting like humans keep winning wrestling matches against Aliens when they typically die -- quickly -- or are trained with specialist equipment (and still die).
Alien? Brett, Dallas, Parker, Lambert -- all toast, none of them harm the Alien at all. It just butchers them. Brett and Lambert do exactly what you say they should -- freeze. Ripley lucks out that she has the "Blow Alien out the door" button handy or she would also have been toast.
Aliens? All civilians dead bar one who could hide, trained soldiers all dead bar one who gets incapacitated, thermonuclear explosion deals with the other Aliens.
Alien3? Panicky unarmed prisoners who all die and need several tons of lead to
annoy the thing.
Alien Resurrection? Amoral pirates who run into all of four Aliens and still mostly die in the process.
I'm not getting where the films show humans overpowering Aliens or doing particularly well against them even when they
do have technology on their side, and a whole lot of exploding ships, power plants, etc. just to
barely survive.