Egg on Sulaco

[Kel G 426]

Why are we blaming Bishop? Because he's a robot? That's.... racist or something.  It could've been Hicks. I mean, how do we know he was really unconscious when Ripley got back?  He was covered with Alien blood. That allowed him to go into the hive undetected. He ran in and got the egg while Bishop was taking a leak, then planted it during the hangar battle. Simple. As. F***.

[Scorpio]

I'm asking you.

Bishop says he can't harm or by omission of action allow harm to come to a human.  And spends the entire film doing precisely that.  So how did he bypass it, and then unbypass it to pick up Ripley and Newt?

And I'm asking you, if it's impossible, then why?

EDIT: Ever heard of unreliable narrator?

And I know which scene you meant in AvP.  The eggs were laid by the Queen, then delivered to the sacrificial chamber using an automated system.  There is no such system in the AP Station so there's no comparison.

The conveyor belt didn't put the eggs there.  The warriors did.

[SM]

The conveyor (and a series of elevators) brought them to the room the same way the first batch arrived.  An Alien would have to move them around as more arrived.

Otherwise you've just been taking the piss for several pages now by dodging or flat out ignoring questions that you have no explanation for, and presenting no evidence to support your arguments.  It's beyond boring now.

[Scorpio]

The conveyor (and a series of elevators) brought them to the room the same way the first batch arrived.  An Alien would have to move them around as more arrived.

The conveyor was only used for those 7 eggs that got Rousseau and her crew. 



If they just kept popping out of there like you imply, they would still have to be moved.  So why would the aliens move all the eggs if it was only one egg per person?

EDIT:  Ok, I just checked and the hive does appear to be the same room as the sacrificial chamber:



You can see the mummified bodies and the columns on the wall are the same.

Still, that one egg per victim is just a fan theory and has never been shown in the films.

Otherwise you've just been taking the piss for several pages now by dodging or flat out ignoring questions that you have no explanation for, and presenting no evidence to support your arguments.  It's beyond boring now.

No need to get tetchy, now.  If you don't want to continue the discussion, no need for negative posts, just stop posting.

[windebieste]

Clearly a sophisticated mechanism distributes 7 eggs and delivers 1 each to the prone hosts in the sacrificial chamber.  The excess eggs the Queen continues to produce get redirected and relegated into storage once that mechanism has fully incremented by 7.

-Windebieste.

[Alien³]

If Bishop had stolen an egg and bypassed his programming he already had Hicks on board.
Why bother going back for Ripley and Newt?

He could have just flown off and got Hicks hugged to get the alien through ICC quarantine.

[Russ840]

If Bishop had stolen an egg and bypassed his programming he already had Hicks on board.
Why bother going back for Ripley and Newt?

He could have just flown off and got Hicks hugged to get the alien through ICC quarantine.

This.

[SiL]

No need to get tetchy, now.  If you don't want to continue the discussion, no need for negative posts, just stop posting.

The problem we're having is it's not our job to prove your point. If you think Bishop did it, you need to come up with something more than 'BUT IS IT IMPOSSIBLE?' over and over.

[SM]

If Bishop had stolen an egg and bypassed his programming he already had Hicks on board.
Why bother going back for Ripley and Newt?

He could have just flown off and got Hicks hugged to get the alien through ICC quarantine.

Tried asking that question maybe 6 or 7 hundred times.

I wish you luck. 

[Scorpio]

Character motivation is just something you can speculate on, it's not concrete.

Maybe he needed extra hosts.
Maybe he was running two different programs.
Maybe WY had programmed special orders into him.
Maybe he was ordered to bring back Ripley as well.

There's so many different scenarios you can come up with.  Yes I know what you're going to say, that there's no evidence for any of these (aside from what happened in the other films).  Yet the only evidence of Bishop's 'programming' is a few lines of dialogue, which could be unreliable narration.

I'm not saying Bishop did it.  It's way more likely Bishop did it than the Queen, though.  The Queen had a much smaller time window to lay an egg, conceal it, then go back to hunting Newt while Ripley was getting suited up in the powerloader.

[Kel G 426]

At the end of the day Bishop is not the reason the Egg is on the Suluco. It was never implied and there is no evidence to base that theory on.

The egg is there because it served the plot of A3 and so the retcon is that it was layed by the queen during the assent to the Suluco at the end of Aliens. The placement of the egg in A3 is just artistic liscening with regards to the consistency of the set appearance.

We have no reason to think anything other than this. Reaching for complicated explainations is redundant when simple ones are right there.

/thread

[FiorinaFury161]

Let's certainly hope so.

[HuDaFuK]

Character motivation is just something you can speculate on, it's not concrete.

No, it isn't.

The fact he simply didn't have time to do it is, though.

[Scorpio]

^We'll get back to that rabbit hole in due time.

It was never implied

Nonsense, it was implied several times:

-"Mr Burke gave instructions that they were to be kept alive in stasis for return to the company labs" IE:  Bishop is there to follow Company orders.
-The weird look Bishop gives Spunkmeyer (originally he was supposed to wear contacts, making him look creepier)
-The facehugger noise in the end credits of Aliens
-"That's a nice pet you got there Bishop" Bishop mirroring Ash with the facehugger

Bishop's line about not being allowed to harm a human being was likely just said to reassure Ripley and gain her trust.

As far as filmmaker intentions goes, that's another rabbit hole.  Not always will a filmmaker flat out state their intention, which is why there are so many theories floating around.

Why are we blaming Bishop? Because he's a robot? That's.... racist or something.  It could've been Hicks. I mean, how do we know he was really unconscious when Ripley got back?  He was covered with Alien blood. That allowed him to go into the hive undetected. He ran in and got the egg while Bishop was taking a leak, then planted it during the hangar battle. Simple. As. F***.

If it was Hicks, he was already wounded and doped up with morphine, unless Hicks and Bishop were in on it together.

[Alien³]

unless Hicks and Bishop were in on it together.