Poll: AvP vs AvPR

[SpaceMarines]

Exactly. So, why doesn't everyone start criticizing that?

Because it wasn't done on-screen. And it wasn't done for shock-value.

[SM]

Yeah it wasn't cheap and nasty.

Oh I know why, coz AVP:R is easy to pick on.

Yep.  Shitty films often are.

[DoomRulz]

The problem isn't with a child or preggy dying. It's about how it's done on-screen. I had no problem with either but if the Brothers wanted a better effect on the audience, they should have put more thought into it.

[samoht]

Exactly. So, why doesn't everyone start criticizing that?

Because it wasn't done on-screen. And it wasn't done for shock-value.

IMO the shock value was good.

[SpaceMarines]

Simply adding something for the sake of adding something is never a good thing. Especially in a terrible movie.

[RagingDragon]

Yes I think shock value has it's place, but not in a movie that has already been laughably marauding around the screen in it's B-Movie underwear for an hour.     It's like putting some emotional rape scene in a stupid comedy movie and expecting the audience to suddenly be all dramatic.  Fail.  It's just sick.. needs to be conveyed in the proper emotional context. 

[XenoVC]

They killed a bunch of kids in Aliens too.

Oh I know why, coz AVP:R is easy to pick on.

No shit

[Basher917]

well guys it seems like the avp series can't get any worse than it already is

in 2012:

                                                  A Micheal Bay film
                                                   Alien vs. Predator
                                              revange of wolf octopus
                                                       dierected by:
                                                       Micheal bay

[Eidotemit]

The problem isn't with a child or preggy dying. It's about how it's done on-screen. I had no problem with either but if the Brothers wanted a better effect on the audience, they should have put more thought into it.

There is also the context in which she is "impregnated" by the alien; which just makes this already poorly executed scene even worse.

They played it way over the top though. It would have been much better, IMO, if they just showed a pregnant woman who had already been killed via bursting, and show a nursery rooms sans babies and covered in blood. If you really want to show the bursting, just do it quick. Lingering on it just makes it less shocking by the second.

[DoomRulz]

How was the context no good? She was in a vulnerable position, and the Predalien saw an opportunity to breed more hosts. Unless you're commenting on the impregnation method on the whole.

[RagingDragon]

I agree with Eidotemit here, if they would have maybe just flashed at the birth real quick like, same with the women screaming and etc (I'm talking flashes here)... I think it would have played out much better.  Would have been scary, disturbing, and retained a sense of mystery without going "here, look at this!"

To me the movie didn't hold much dramatic value, and it wanted you to care about the characters only as much as you do in, say, slasher films.  So I got into 'blood and guts' mode only to see something that honestly personally offends me while also being so strangely outside of Alien canon that I'm confused as well as angry, not just more movie violence, and it's not going to work on the emotional appeal level.

The first thing I thought of was not how savage or creepy the aliens were, but how large of Jackasses the brothers were.  That's not what they were going for, I think. 

[SpaceMarines]

To me the movie didn't hold much dramatic value, and it wanted you to care about the characters only as much as you do in, say, slasher films.

That's another terrible thing in this film. The Alien and Predator movies have always been about likable, realistic, memorable characters that you care about. This movie had none of that. Granted, neither did AvP.

[PredalienXenomorph]

To me the movie didn't hold much dramatic value, and it wanted you to care about the characters only as much as you do in, say, slasher films.

That's another terrible thing in this film. The Alien and Predator movies have always been about likable, realistic, memorable characters that you care about. This movie had none of that. Granted, neither did AvP.

You had to expect this from AvP-R though, they never tried to hide it.

[XenoVC]

How was the context no good? She was in a vulnerable position, and the Predalien saw an opportunity to breed more hosts. Unless you're commenting on the impregnation method on the whole.

Possibly the way the scene was done methinks.

[OmegaZilla]

well guys it seems like the avp series can't get any worse than it already is

in 2012:

                                                  A Micheal Bay film
                                                   Alien vs. Predator
                                              revange of wolf octopus
                                                       dierected by:
                                                       Micheal bay

HE WILL CONQUER US AAAALLLLL