In The News

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ScardyFox

ScardyFox

#510
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Feb 08, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Well then, the "expert" was dumb.


But you have to ask the question as to why the hosts weren't calling him out on his BS.

Because she didn't know? She's a news caster, not a meteorologist/ climate expert.

This whole thing is silly. I just watched the clip and read the counter argument - the comment is about 5 seconds long.

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#511
Just noticed that I kept saying "he" and "him" when it's actually a woman. Odd...anyway, the video is right up there in the link, Grimes.

Rick Grimes

Rick Grimes

#512
I don't, she is somewhat right about Germany having "lots of sun."

QuoteGerman solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour - equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity - through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank said.

The German government decided to abandon nuclear power after the Fukushima nuclear disaster last year, closing eight plants immediately and shutting down the remaining nine by 2022.

They will be replaced by renewable energy sources such as wind, solar and bio-mass.

Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry (IWR) in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power per hour fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50 percent of the nation's midday electricity needs.

"Never before anywhere has a country produced as much photovoltaic electricity," Allnoch told Reuters. "Germany came close to the 20 gigawatt (GW) mark a few times in recent weeks. But this was the first time we made it over."

The record-breaking amount of solar power shows one of the world's leading industrial nations was able to meet a third of its electricity needs on a work day, Friday, and nearly half on Saturday when factories and offices were closed.

Government-mandated support for renewables has helped Germany became a world leader in renewable energy and the country gets about 20 percent of its overall annual electricity from those sources.

Germany has nearly as much installed solar power generation capacity as the rest of the world combined and gets about four percent of its overall annual electricity needs from the sun alone. It aims to cut its greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent from 1990 levels by 2020.

SUNSHINE

Some critics say renewable energy is not reliable enough nor is there enough capacity to power major industrial nations. But Chancellor Angela Merkel has said Germany is eager to demonstrate that is indeed possible.

The jump above the 20 GW level was due to increased capacity this year and bright sunshine nationwide.

The 22 GW per hour figure is up from about 14 GW per hour a year ago. Germany added 7.5 GW of installed power generation capacity in 2012 and 1.8 GW more in the first quarter for a total of 26 GW capacity.

"This shows Germany is capable of meeting a large share of its electricity needs with solar power," Allnoch said. "It also shows Germany can do with fewer coal-burning power plants, gas-burning plants and nuclear plants."

Allnoch said the data is based on information from the European Energy Exchange (EEX), a bourse based in Leipzig.

The incentives through the state-mandated "feed-in-tariff" (FIT) are not without controversy, however. The FIT is the lifeblood for the industry until photovoltaic prices fall further to levels similar for conventional power production.

Utilities and consumer groups have complained the FIT for solar power adds about 2 cents per kilowatt/hour on top of electricity prices in Germany that are already among the highest in the world with consumers paying about 23 cents per kw/h.

German consumers pay about 4 billion euros ($5 billion) per year on top of their electricity bills for solar power, according to a 2012 report by the Environment Ministry.

Critics also complain growing levels of solar power make the national grid more less stable due to fluctuations in output.

Merkel's centre-right government has tried to accelerate cuts in the FIT, which has fallen by between 15 and 30 percent per year, to nearly 40 percent this year to levels below 20 cents per kw/h. But the upper house of parliament, the Bundesrat, has blocked it.


Read more at ONTD Political: http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9737602.html#ixzz2KLwPTfvg

http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9737602.html


They held the world record for most solar power energy than any other country, thus meaning "they have more sun" lol.

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#513
QuoteThey held the world record for most solar power energy than any other country, thus meaning "they have more sun" lol.



Love it.

Rick Grimes

Rick Grimes

#514
It even says,

QuoteThe jump above the 20 GW level was due to increased capacity this year and bright sunshine nationwide.

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#515
But to say that it won't work at all here is just asinine.

Besides:


Quotethe entirety of the continental United States gets more sun than even the sunniest part of Germany. In fact, NREL senior scientist Sarah Kurtz said via email, "Germany's solar resource is akin to Alaska's," the U.S. state with by far the lowest annual average of direct solar energy.


Taken from the link that has the video.

ScardyFox

ScardyFox

#516
It won't work in the US (as such) because of the drastic difference in land mass, logistics and infrastructure. As the video points out they have dumped billions of tax dollars into it and its not working. Whatever wording used the fact is: billions spent and minimal return.

With that, I am running because I'm not getting sucked into this silliness.

May the best man win. 

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#517
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 08, 2013, 11:37:46 PM


With that, I am running because I'm not getting sucked into this silliness.




I'll see you at the AvPG Championship thread then.

ScardyFox

ScardyFox

#518
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 08, 2013, 11:37:46 PM


With that, I am running because I'm not getting sucked into this silliness.




I'll see you at the AvPG Championship thread then.

Lol, thats a damn fine plug. A damn fine one. :)

Eva

Eva

#519
Two minutes of research told me that the Fox 'expert' in the clip above, is married to a guy working in the private energy sector, in a firm primarily developing for the gas segment. Just another piece of 'journalism' from the channel that doesn't believe in journalism, funded by the party that doesn't believe in science. :D

Rick Grimes

Rick Grimes

#520
....whatever  ::)

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#521
Quote from: Eva on Feb 09, 2013, 12:18:39 AM
Two minutes of research told me that the Fox 'expert' in the clip above, is married to a guy working in the private energy sector, in a firm primarily developing for the gas segment.



Which goes to show why she uttered crap from her mouth.


Eva

Eva

#522
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: Eva on Feb 09, 2013, 12:18:39 AM
Two minutes of research told me that the Fox 'expert' in the clip above, is married to a guy working in the private energy sector, in a firm primarily developing for the gas segment.

Which goes to show why she uttered crap from her mouth.

She just ad-libbed the question and part answer she was asked and made up the rest on the spot. Probably from a morning conversation around the breakfast table at home with her hubbie. Nowhere as embarrassing as Fox on the night of the Presidential Election though - nothing can top that.

PS: today, wind power covers approx 20% of our electrical consumption, expected to rise to 45-50% by 2020, supplied by the massive offshore windfarms we're building right now. So this talk about 'renewables not working or whatever they're trying to channel' is compete nonsense. And we have plenty of solar power too... you know, up here north of where Germany is located. ;)

Rick Grimes

Rick Grimes

#523
Who gives a shit about Fox News? If you think they're a joke and can't take them seriously, then stop talking about them.  Let them just be oblivious air-heads to the world around them, no need to constantly remind us about their stupidity.

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#524
Quote from: Rick Grimes on Feb 09, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
Who gives a shit about Fox News? If you think they're a joke and can't take them seriously, then stop talking about them.  Let them just be oblivious air-heads to the world around them, no need to constantly remind us about their stupidity.





Chill out Grimes, no need to look at the posts if you don't want to read.

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