Quote from: GrimmVision on Today at 01:26:00 AMQuote from: The Cruentus on Today at 01:12:02 AMAsh let them in so he broke quarantine. Ripley made it clear she wasn't going to let them in.
They stuck together until Brett let the cat go.
Granted that is stupid but emotional connections
Panic and they were not told why they should not fire.
They were in the middle of nowhere and had no reason to believe something would sneak onboard, besides we don't know if they actually knew what JUST happened.
8ft tall monsters dropping from ceiling takes priority....
• Dallas and Lambert attempting to break quarantine was the dumb idea, even if Ash wasn't there.
• They still split up. And they split up again at the end with Ripley on her own and Lambert and Parker together.
• Had Ripley not taken the time to get sidetracked by Jonesy, Lambert's and Parker's fate may have changed
• Doesn't matter why they weren't told to fire, they disobeyed their superiors
• Literally everyone else was connected by earpieces but those two weren't?
• There was absolutely at least a handful of hours Burke could've been watched once Ripley said she was "happy to disappoint" him
Lightyears from home......a creature attached to a dudes face.....I would think their desperation to get inside because of crushing fear is a hell of a different flavor than cantrememberhername wandering off to wash up after they got their faces kicked in by bullet resistant monsters. If cantrememberhername ran off during the attack in the field, it would be an understandable act of fear. Big difference.
Weren't they trying to narrow down the chances the chest burster could get away by trying to corner it between the two groups? Was Dallas and the rest hanging out in the rec room while Ripley and the other two were hunting or am I confused? Brett died because they didn't realize what they were up against and a lack of knowledge, not a lack of intelligence. Mean they at least had a cattle prod and a net to face the thing that looked like a snake. They didn't try to pet the cobra analog like in Prometheus.
Icantrememberhername also knew the creatures were incredibly lethal and aggressive.
The Marines weren't stupid to disobey orders. What were they supposed to do stand there and get mauled? History is full of soldiers taking steps to increase their chances of survival because of incompetent or inexperienced rank. You're making it a black and white issue on orders when that's not reality. I literally work with people that are alive today because of just that. The Marines were overconfident, but they still knew there was a danger, and that could have only gotten more serious to them as they moved into the hive. They were shown to start fraying around the edges as soon as they got there.
Drake and Vasquez were connected, and they heard Apone give the order. They also knew that they were now in the lion's den. The only reason they lasted long enough to get to the APC was because 3 of them directly disobeyed orders.
I think that the conversation about the heat exchangers did not include the squad. They only got the order. They might have all followed orders if Gorman took a second to tell them why. They might have tried pistols instead of smart guns even.
The dumb part is not falling back and regrouping. Again, at least Gorman was buckling under pressure and his inexperience led him to analysis paralysis.
I'll give Icantrememberhername a little credit though. It's very likely she wasn't thinking clearly, it just wasn't shown like it was with Gorman.
As for Burke, there actually is a bit of truth and logic to his defense of sending the colonists to investigate the derelict versus assuming he would intentionally commit a double murder of a woman and child. He hadn't shown that. Not to mention the Marines were his only chance of surviving. That would be a pretty big leap. Hell, maybe it was a bad call and he wasn't being nefarious until his ass was on the line in the colony.
I think there is way more nuance in Alien and Aliens than the prequels by a country mile.
The backburster and ensuing chaos made perfect sense to me. I've seen it as an example before. Like damn. I would have freaked out and blown myself up too lol.
Petting space cobras though ......never haha. I think Covenant is the more complete film of the two. My big gripe is dumber characters than the other movies haha....and the lore change.
Forgive me for the novel. I'm restless with insomnia.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Today at 02:19:20 AM2: She caves to her emotional attachment and opens the door, and the xeno is now inside.
It always gets inside.
This. Kane gives birth and Ripley may try to save those two due to witnessing the horror and going into a panic.