Blomkamp is officially making an Alien film

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HuDaFuK

Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 24, 2015, 08:45:06 AMWe don't know that a velociraptor would be a predator of humans any moreso than a lion or tiger would be.

Um, what?

The first two JP films have major scenes where Raptors explicitly hunt humans (Muldoon, the long grass).

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#1531
Yeah, and lions and tigers can (and have) done the same thing.

I'm not saying that raptors don't or can't hunt humans, just that there's no indication they're any more of a predator than any other large, historically man-killing animal out there that we've managed to domesticate.

HuDaFuK

Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 24, 2015, 09:00:17 AMYeah, and lions and tigers can (and have) done the same thing.

I'm not saying that raptors don't or can't hunt humans, just that there's no indication they're any more of a predator than any other large, historically man-killing animal out there that we've managed to domesticate.

In very rare cases. They certainly aren't "historical man-killers". Just rogue individuals driven by specific circumstances. Polar bears and crocodiles are the only animals that actively hunt people as a species. How many domesticated examples of those do you see?

It doesn't change the fact that every Jurassic Park contradicts you. They all show Raptors actively hunting people, and not just one rogue dino acting alone, but as an organised pack. In one case (Muldoon), their actions even specifically correlate to the hunting behaviour described by Grant at the start of the movie. The implication in the films is quite obviously that they hunt us.

Anyway, this is getting totally off topic.

Xenomrph

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Domesticated Raptors doesn't bother me as a concept, and we'll have to see what the full execution is like in the final film.

Alien³

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 24, 2015, 09:09:52 AM
It doesn't change the fact that every Jurassic Park contradicts you. They all show Raptors actively hunting people, and not just one rogue dino acting alone, but as an organised pack. In one case (Muldoon), their actions even specifically correlate to the hunting behaviour described by Grant at the start of the movie. The implication in the films is quite obviously that they hunt us.

But at the start of the movie Grant does not know dinosaurs are alive again.

His description is implying a general hunting tactic the species may have used 65 million years ago. Just coincidence we're on their menu, and they use that hunting method.

DoomRulz

Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 24, 2015, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 24, 2015, 02:41:03 AM
Not if the Aliens are genetically engineered. They could be designed to be trained.
Ehhhh, there's a lot of ways you can go with that. Making the Aliens trainable (or modifiable so they can be trained) kinda undermines them thematically.

Like I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it's not a very good idea from a storytelling perspective.

Given the liberties authors always take when it comes to EU in general, anything is possible.

stroggificated

I think we would have hunted the Velociraptor instead   ;)



What were the movie makers thinking? That >Velociraptor< sounds cool?  ;D
There's a dinosaur who would look like the Movie-Velociraptors, but i don't remember its name...

Born Of Cold Light

Quote from: stroggificated on Mar 24, 2015, 09:09:11 PM
I think we would have hunted the Velociraptor instead   ;)

http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/v/velociraptor-size.jpg

What were the movie makers thinking? That >Velociraptor< sounds cool?  ;D
There's a dinosaur who would look like the Movie-Velociraptors, but i don't remember its name...

Just because it's small doesn't mean it's not dangerous.  A pack of those could easily take down a human.

JungleHunter87

QuoteThere's a dinosaur who would look like the Movie-Velociraptors, but i don't remember its name...

I think you are talking about Deinonychus.

HuDaFuK

Quote from: stroggificated on Mar 24, 2015, 09:09:11 PMWhat were the movie makers thinking? That >Velociraptor< sounds cool?  ;D
There's a dinosaur who would look like the Movie-Velociraptors, but i don't remember its name...
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on Mar 24, 2015, 09:20:09 PMI think you are talking about Deinonychus.

I remember reading that, back when they made the first film, Deinonychus was commonly accepted to be a member of the velociraptor family. It was subsequently reclassified, which is why the raptors in the film look nothing like the real thing did.

stroggificated

^ I think that was the one. The Utahraptor would be a bit too big.

Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Mar 24, 2015, 09:16:00 PM
Just because it's small doesn't mean it's not dangerous.  A pack of those could easily take down a human.

And vice versa....
Pack Wars!!  ;D

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Close Encounters on Mar 23, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 23, 2015, 12:01:38 PM
What comic is Jeri from?

Aliens: Stronghold http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Aliens:_Stronghold

Very fun comic!

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-omnibus-volume-4/

"On an apparently routine supply run, Philip and Joy Strunk deliver a shipment of synthetic photo receptors to Caspar Nordling, biotechnologist for Grant Corporation. When the Strunks discover that Nordling's experiments have exceeded Stanislaw Mayakovsky's work (as seen in Aliens: Hive), they realize that there's more to Nordling — and the Aliens — than meets the eye."

Stronghold sees the return of John Arcudi to the typewriter with artwork provided by Doug Mahnke and Jimmy Palmiotti. The basic premise of Stronghold is that married technical team Philip and Joy Strunk have travelled to the far flung research facility run by Dr Nordling and staffed entirely by synthetics to ensure everything meets standard health and safety regulations.

You see, the good Doctor is working on a biological way to kill the Xenomorphs and you just don't need any leaks or errors in their safety systems.

What the story turns into is John Arcudi's exploration of Nordling's treatment of his synthetic charges. The script makes it blatantly clear that what he does is tantamount to abuse. Joy takes the limelight in their defence and works to try and find a way to get Dr Nordling in hot water with their employers, the Grant Corporation.

As can be expected she is discovered and everything goes to pot with the synthetics rebelling – as well as their programming will allow –against Nordling and attempting to save Joy and Philip.

The subject isn't really something that has been dealt with in the Aliens franchise. It wasn't even touched in any of the films and it has only recently been revisited in Alien – More Than Human, the latest novella by Dark Horse. Synthetic characters are typically presented as adversarial in the games as well.

Stronghold is a spiritual sequel to Aliens – Harvest in that it includes a synthetic Xenomorph in the form of Jeri, building on from the prototype introduced in Harvest. Jeri is quite easily the best thing in Stronghold. He is, in my opinion, the only character in the story that is interesting and shows actual personality and development.

Character progression is largely forgotten, focusing more on the story and putting across the point of how evil Nordling is to treat the synthetic characters like tools to be used. Jeri is easily the star of the show, the other characters falling to the side.

But as we get to the last pages, Arcudi completely shoots himself in the foot by having Philip Strunk say something like to the effect of "nevermind, they were only synthetic. They weren't people." This completely negates the entire point of the story, underminding his own message and his own characters – and in Philip's case, his own wife.

Mahnke and Palmiotti's artwork is pretty typical of the 90s, featuring plenty of basic colours and somewhat lacking in detail. That's not to say it's bad. It's just a product of its time, like many of the stories in this particular volume. We've definitely seen worse. *cough* that's right, I'm looking at you, Female War *cough*

I think Stronghold is a solid entry in the Aliens mythology and the inclusion of the legend that is Jeri makes Stronghold an easy one to recommend and a very welcome inclusion in Volume #4.

predxeno

Quote from: JungleHunter87 on Mar 24, 2015, 09:20:09 PM
QuoteThere's a dinosaur who would look like the Movie-Velociraptors, but i don't remember its name...

I think you are talking about Deinonychus.


It could also be Utahraptor.


asudi

asudi

#1543
i hope this turn outs be good. the director made crappy films before.

THE CITY HUNTER

First of all don't get hyped alien 5  still be a flop ( is it me or Neil Blomkemp movies all similar) and does that mean alien 5 will be set before aliens or will it be a new Ripley character.http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/Smileys/default/huh.gif

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