Anyone else think it's time for fox to stop with Predator and Alien?

[Nathsp]

Does? No.

Can? Yes, I believe with a difficult reinterpretation, that according to box office reception of the franchise wouldn't be a worthwhile endeavour.

A reinterpretation, a good one, what black did is a lazy mess

[EJA]

Does? No.

Can? Yes, I believe with a difficult reinterpretation, that according to box office reception of the franchise wouldn't be a worthwhile endeavour.

So where can Alien go that is at all worthwhile? Because, if anything, Ridley has boxed it in further than ever.

[The Old One]

Anywhere. Anywhere at all.

You have every story about the exploitation of the worker by Capitalism to explore, the indifference of an apathetic universe, primal survival, fear of the foreign, artificial intelligence, the futuristic military industrial complex and lovecraftian horror.

[skull-splitter]

Stop, no, but maybe just making sure it adheres to the core concept.
Davis influenced on AvP, AvP-R, Predators ánd the Predator, and he seems to be selling gullible stuff to suits who have no grip on their franchises anyway.

Black, on the other hand, probably was better of not leaning this much on his buddy Dekker.

[EJA]

Anywhere. Anywhere at all.

You have every story about the exploitation of the worker by Capitalism to explore, the indifference of an apathetic universe, primal survival, fear of the foreign, artificial intelligence, the futuristic military industrial complex and lovecraftian horror.

Ridley has made the entire species originate with David. With him gone, and the derelict in LV-426 gone, where else can you get Aliens?

[The Old One]

You don't have to adhere to that.

So, anywhere potentially-

[skull-splitter]

Anywhere. Anywhere at all.

You have every story about the exploitation of the worker by Capitalism to explore, the indifference of an apathetic universe, primal survival, fear of the foreign, artificial intelligence, the futuristic military industrial complex and lovecraftian horror.

Ridley has made the entire species originate with David. With him gone, and the derelict in LV-426 gone, where else can you get Aliens?

He had one strain originating from David, maybe even working up to the point that both engineers and David arrived at almost the same level of perfection.

[EJA]

Anywhere. Anywhere at all.

You have every story about the exploitation of the worker by Capitalism to explore, the indifference of an apathetic universe, primal survival, fear of the foreign, artificial intelligence, the futuristic military industrial complex and lovecraftian horror.

Ridley has made the entire species originate with David. With him gone, and the derelict in LV-426 gone, where else can you get Aliens?

He had one strain originating from David, maybe even working up to the point that both engineers and David arrived at almost the same level of perfection.

Incorrect. Ridley is making David the new monster.

[The Old One]

From the context of the prequels- David is a "perfect" AI and so is the Alien a biological one, so they're equals.

[EJA]

From the context of the prequels- David is a "perfect" AI and so is the Alien a biological one, so they're equals.

But it limits the possibilities.

[The Old One]

It doesn't, not at all.
I love it being a "biological AI" as it eliminates the ludicrous idea that they're a natural creature, regardless of what was responsible for their creation.

Especially because further filmmakers don't necessarily have to adhere to the idea that David is their sole creator.

[EJA]

It doesn't, not at all.
I love it being a "biological AI" as it eliminates the ludicrous idea that they're a natural creature, regardless of what was responsible for their creation.

Especially because further filmmakers don't necessarily have to adhere to the idea that David is their sole creator.

I never believed they were a result of natural evolution. That isn't the problem. The problem is with David being their creator, which Alien: Covenant leaves absolutely no doubt about whatsoever.

[The Old One]

Which could be retconned by being recontextualised in a further film, nothing stopping any stories being told.

[Marc505]

I don't think AvP as a concept is dead. There's enough excellent, horrific, scary ideas there to make an incredible film.

To the average movie goer though it might not get the time of day anymore after the last two

[EJA]

Which could be retconned by being recontextualised in a further film, nothing stopping any stories being told.

Nope, it's gonna go David totally.