Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Aug 12, 2022, 05:33:07 PMQuote from: PredBabe on Aug 12, 2022, 04:58:19 PMFor me, as a woman, it's nice to have that first pred movie feature a strong female character (with a very talented actress no less). I thought Midthunder did great with what she was given. Naru is clearly eager to learn and very smart and capable. I liked the mud trap she sets up by the end to take Feral out... BUT the way they went about developing other aspects of the story is what ruined it for me.
The coming-of-age story, while not my first pick for a female lead Predator movie, was cheapened with the many throwaway bully male characters and then a predator creature that operates solely on "brute force" rather than the methodical and devious creature that we know it to be from previous films. It's kind of a slap to the face to think that we can't have other (male) characters more fleshed out or even a more competent Predator for such a smart female to go up against. I just think there was a lot more room for improvement.
You don't need to dumb down the surrounding characters for the audience to root for Naru. They didn't do this to Dutch. It wasn't necessary for Ripley. It wasn't necessary for Sarah Connor. It wasn't necessary for Furiosa.
It's not the first. Alice Broga was border line co lead in Predators. And quite frankly she was the most likable person in the cast, also the most honorable character. She should've been the protagonist, period instead of cringe ass unlikable Adrien Brody.
Feral still stalks his prey like a traditional Predator. The movie is an hour and a half long, and given the lack of automatic projectile weapons or militaries, or gangs, he didn't need to be as "devious" or cunning. Or stalk for plot purposes building tension for endless amounts of time.
It was a simple, efficient, quick and straightforward plot. No need to dick around.
I think it's deliberate being a more savage take on the character not AS reliant upon technology that he prefers a more beastly and animalistic physical confrontation. And for the most part of the film he is killing animals until he gets to the Comanches and French fur trappers.
And at no point were the characters around her dumbed down. They had a justifiably archaic and tribalistic view of how and what women should mean or do in their community. And it seemed more than believable.
And more competent Predator? It is shown deliberately that her brother is by far the best and most experienced natural hunter or warrior in the tribe, and Feral lays waste to him.
Some absolutely gross exaggerations going on here 
I meant as a leading female role... otherwise we could sit here all day and discuss Isabelle, Casey, Anna or Leona for that matter.
You may not feel it's necessary for the Predator to stalk and observe its prey, but I think it brings a different feel to the creature. Especially if this is truly their first time on Earth, as the movie suggests, and especially if Feral is taking on opponents head-on.
In regards to other characters, again I think a lot more could have been established than what was presented, especially with the Frenchmen. Taabe and Naru were the only strong characters and while I get that characters are ultimately going to get killed off, there was room for more conversations outside of belittling the main character.
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 12, 2022, 06:28:20 PMQuote from: Pu$$yFace on Aug 12, 2022, 06:15:25 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 12, 2022, 06:11:17 PMPeople definitely come up with some weird takes.
Yet oddly don't keep the same level of heightened criticisms of other films they defend. Keep the same pessimistic and negative energy.
People are critical because the movie just came out. You should have seen this place when The Predator came out. I'm sure The Predator fans can attest to the atmosphere LOL. Reviews of all the movies run the gamut on this site. People have some strong positive feelings for P2 that I don't quite understand.
But regardless, I AM glad that there is renewed interest in the Predator universe after this movie. I think that is a win in the long-run. I don't agree with all of the negative reviews in this thread. But IMO, pretending like the movie doesn't have problems and to NOT discuss its shortcomings...I don't think that's the way either.
Agreed wholeheartedly. I'm glad that it's bringing attention to the series- even if there is a bit of a split within the fandom. I can appreciate the movie for attracting newcomers- I know my man really enjoyed it as it seems to have sparked his interest. But can't help but have my reserves for it...
