The Batman (2021)

[Immortan Jonesy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJSXgZxaNo0

https://twitter.com/Hawkmansworld/status/1507307014631874575

[Xenomrph]

Son of a bitch, good catch.

[Kradan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJSXgZxaNo0

Heath Ledger's wannabe

[Kradan]

https://youtu.be/Y5LRWZdAoJw

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ponysmasher/status/1515041237295775744

[BlazinBlueReview]

Super excited for this. Waited for it to stream. Now deciding if wait and buy the 4K or to watch it tomorrow on HBO Max.

[Kradan]

Apparently, illegal copy of The Batman will be screened in Moscow's cinemas. It's been reported in Russian news. Big f**king lol 

[Local Trouble]

This movie desperately wants to be a David Fincher film.

[Kradan]

Does that upset people ?

The Batman

Probably will post my more elaborated thoughts later

Some of my elaborated (not too organised) thoughts

Spoiler

- Intro was pretty cool, although I feel like I've seen the best part in the trailer

- I liked how Bat-suit looks, especially mask which screamed "home-made" to me. I liked in general how low-tech this Batman was in comparision to others. Seeing Batman's geting dirty was great

- Pattinson was good in the role. I liked how his Batman didn't quite have the experience which is IMO best examplified in the scene when he escapes from GCPD only to hit his head on the bridge. As far as cinematic Batmans go, my ranking would be this: Bale > Affleck > Pattinson > Keaton.

- Riddler was good but not amazing. I couldn't escape thinking about Heath Ledger while watching him especially with whole broadcast hijacking, weird articulation, kidnapping and terrorist attacks. He felt like TDK Joker with Bane's voice. Made me laugh couple of times, actor seemed to enjoy playing the role. I don't get his design though. I'm completely noob when it comes to comics but isn't Riddler supposed to be stylish, wearing green suit, with a hat and a cane ? Is there a similiar design from the comics ? And what his mask was supposed to be made out of?

- Penguin was kinda underutilised but I honestly liked that they didn't try to make him into another "villain" of the movie. He was just a character who existed in this world and I was pleased with it. Bat-mobile chase was neat but I miss how heavy and imposing Tumbler from Nolan movies was

-Zoe Kravitz didn't really impress me as Catwoman. In terms of looks she is probably the closest to Year One Catwoman but that's about it. My heart still belongs to sassy Anne Hathaway

- I feel like Alfred existed in the movie only for that exposition dump in the hospital scene. As far as usefulness goes he was on the same level as Alfred from the 90s movies while Michael Caine and Jeremy Irons got a lot more to do in their respective movies IMO. Also, when that bomb went off, I was like "Oh shit, are they gonna kill Alfred in the first movie !?" But of course they didn't. And who was that old lady supposed to be ? Is she somebody from the comics ?

- A lot of this movie felt like "I've seen this somewhere before". For example, I liked how they made Waynes' past more shaddy than usual and how that made Bruce question the importance of his whole crusade against crime but I feel like I've seen this and the whole "poor vs. rich" riots in 2019 Joker movie. As I've said earlier, Riddler felt very much like TDK Joker knock-off. Also, a lot of this movie reminded me of Batman Begins but I can't quite put finger on what exactly. Idk, maybe because of how shitty and rainy this version of Gotham is ?

- Movie really tries to cram A LOT into it's runtime. Some plotlines get forgotten for the other ones to be picked up, some of them get kinda abandoned. Runtime didn't bother me, movie held my interest till the end but I wish some of its elements were fleshed out more

-Interogation scene in Arkham felt like a nice climax for the movie. Oh well, Batman gotta go kick some goons in Riddler costumes. Kinda took from the weight of the final fight that they were just faceless strangers. And whole flood thing came outta nowhere, didn't it ? Nice visuals though, I liked how Batman jumps from the smoke and is all like "Bwaaarggggh !". Also, I liked when that umasked "Riddler" did a callback to the beginning of the movie, confronting Batman with his own words

- Joker ... Ugh. Did we really need this ?

- Ending was kinda corny and on the nose but I liked how hopeful it was. Visual of Batman in the water holding that flare, a beacon of hope above his head, while surrounded by darkness was quite memorable and impressive. In general, visuals and cinematography were great. Good job, Matt Reeves

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Although, It may seem I have more criticism than praise for the movie I still enjoyed it overall, As I've said, that movie gets how Batman should "feel" and that's most important to me, I love me some good atmosphere. I'm looking forward to re-watching this one to pick up on things I might've missed

Solid 7/10 from me

[Local Trouble]

Give him white "Batvision" contacts too.  I want him to have a DCAU look when he's in costume.

They gave him the contacts, yet didn't make them white?!  Missed opportunity.

The more I see of this, the more I believe Pattinson was miscast.  He's too young, too slim and too soft-spoken for this role.  Each Batman scene plays better in my mind if it had been Affleck in his BvS costume.

[Kradan]

So how was that ice cream ?

[Local Trouble]

A bit nutty.

This movie did not need to be three hours long.

[Kradan]

This really highlights how much Anne Hathaway sucked in the role of Selina Kyle, not that it's necessarily her fault, Zoe Kravitz's excellent here and really inhabits what exactly makes the character. This film's definitely derivative, but I think the style and the mood makes up for it, and I liked the message about retributive justice and how it applies to Bruce Wayne's character who Robert Pattinson does a good job portraying. Colin Farrell's also utterly unrecognisable in the best possible way.

I'm sorry but give me Anne Hathaway any day of the week over this. Her Catwoman was near perfect blend of sexy, sassy and professional while Zoe Kravitz's one was all like "I'm hurt and I'm hiding it all deep inside". Nothing against the actress but I just like Nolan's characterisation more. I don't need every character in a Batman movie to be scarred and traumatised. You could tell that Hathaway's Catwoman had a rough upbringing on the streets but the movie she was in didn't felt the need to wallow in "drama"

[BlueMarsalis79]

Zoe Kravitz's Catwoman's an almost perfect translation of Darwyn Cooke and Ed Brubaker's run from the solo novel. I still prefer Michelle Pfeiffer's take but this' no slouch.

Anne Hathaway's the most surface level understanding translation of the character I have witnessed in nearly any medium, as well as a really awful understanding of class politics from Christopher Nolan's writing, inbued into the story.

[Kradan]

I would put Pfeiffer above Kravitz as well. I may not like whole "back-from-dead-a-literal-cat" aspect of her Catwoman but she owned that role in a way I felt Kravitz just didn't