Theology

Started by Sabby, Sep 01, 2013, 02:51:02 AM

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DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2220
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Jan 06, 2015, 09:03:47 PM
*edit*

And Doom, didn't know he published work under his real name too. If I'm being honest I was totally judging a book by its cover, but considering how much I'd had to drink last night I'm impressed I could type at all.  ::)

Drunken wanker, mind your Ps and Qs!

[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#2221
Quote from: Sabby on Jan 06, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
Point being, I really did not appreciate the implication that I create or encourage this conflict. I don't know if that's how you meant it, but that's how it can read.

There's a very good chance you do in fact encourage it, without realizing it. Just like he probably doesn't realize what a tosspot he's being.


@ Doom

Yeah, that's, well, that's kinda my M.O.

Sabby

Sabby

#2222
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Jan 07, 2015, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Jan 06, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
Point being, I really did not appreciate the implication that I create or encourage this conflict. I don't know if that's how you meant it, but that's how it can read.

There's a very good chance you do in fact encourage it, without realizing it. Just like he probably doesn't realize what a tosspot he's being.


@ Doom

Yeah, that's, well, that's kinda my M.O.

Trust me man, if you knew this guy, you wouldn't think so. I get what you mean, and in most cases, you're totally right, but not here. He really is just that mental.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2223
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Jan 07, 2015, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Jan 06, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
Point being, I really did not appreciate the implication that I create or encourage this conflict. I don't know if that's how you meant it, but that's how it can read.

There's a very good chance you do in fact encourage it, without realizing it. Just like he probably doesn't realize what a tosspot he's being.


@ Doom

Yeah, that's, well, that's kinda my M.O.

That, and providing me with hilarious new insults :D :D :D "tosspot"

Sabby

Sabby

#2224


Caught this the other night and edited it out.

Sabby

Sabby

#2225
Welp, Cracked went after The Amazing Atheist, and his response is just too good not to post. We've talked about him in the past and I was pretty on the fence about him, but he's really won me over.


DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2226
Terrific video, especially the last few minutes. TJ is a good guy. Cracked can bite the big one.

Sabby

Sabby

#2227
Yeah, he has a way of wording himself that I'm really envious of. That last part resonated with me, man.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

#2228
Just for fun, this is a story written by Bertrand Russell, a philosopher, mathematician, logician and British writer winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature and known for his influence on analytic philosophy, his mathematical work and his social activism.


The Theologian's Nightmare
by Bertrand Russell
(from Fact and Fiction, 1961)


The eminent theologian Dr. Thaddeus dreamt that he died and pursued his course toward heaven. His studies had prepared him and he had no difficulty in finding the way. He knocked at the door of heaven, and was met with a closer scrutiny than he expected. "I ask admission," he said, "because I was a good man and devoted my life to the glory of God." "Man?" said the janitor, "What is that? And how could such a funny creature as you do anything to promote the glory of God?" Dr. Thaddeus was astonished. "You surely cannot be ignorant of man. You must be aware that man is the supreme work of the Creator." "As to that," said the janitor, "I am sorry to hurt your feelings, but what you're saying is news to me. I doubt if anybody up here has ever heard of this thing you call 'man.' However, since you seem distressed, you shall have a chance of consulting our librarian."

The librarian, a globular being with a thousand eyes and one mouth, bent some of his eyes upon Dr. Thaddeus. "What is this?" he asked the janitor. "This," replied the janitor, "says that it is a member of a species called 'man,' which lives in a place called 'Earth.' It has some odd notion that the Creator takes a special interest in this place and this species. I thought perhaps you could enlighten it." "Well," said the librarian kindly to the theologian, "perhaps you can tall me where this place is that you call 'Earth.'" "Oh," said the theologian, "it's part of the Solar System." "And what is the Solar System?" asked the librarian. "Oh," said the theologian, somewhat disconcerted, "my province was Sacred Knowledge, but the question that you are asking belongs to profane knowledge. However, I have learnt enough from my astronomical friends to be able to tell you that the Solar System is part of the Milky Way." "And what is the Milky Way?" asked the librarian. "Oh, the Milky Way is one of the Galaxies, of which, I am told, there are some hundred million." "Well, well," said the librarian, "you could hardly expect me to remember one out of so many. But I do remember to have heard the word galaxy' before. In fact, I believe that one of our sub-librarians specializes in galaxies. Let us send for him and see whether he can help."

After no very long time, the galactic sub-librarian made his appearance. In shape, he was a dodecahedron. It was clear that at one time his surface had been bright, but the dust of the shelves had rendered him dim and opaque. The librarian explained to him that Dr. Thaddeus, in endeavoring to account for his origin, had mentioned galaxies, and it was hoped that information could be obtained from the galactic section of the library. "Well," said the sub-librarian, "I suppose it might become possible in time, but as there are a hundred million galaxies, and each has a volume to itself, it takes some time to find any particular volume. Which is it that this odd molecule desires?" "It is the one called 'The Milky Way,'" Dr. Thaddeus falteringly replied. "All right," said the sub- librarian, "I will find it if I can."

Some three weeks later, he returned, explaining that the extraordinarily efficient card index in the galactic section of the library had enabled him to locate the galaxy as number QX 321,762. "We have employed," he said, "all the five thousand clerks in the galactic section on this search. Perhaps you would like to see the clerk who is specially concerned with the galaxy in question?" The clerk was sent for and turned out to be an octahedron with an eye in each face and a mouth in one of them. He was surprised and dazed to find himself in such a glittering region, away from the shadowy limbo of his shelves. Pulling himself together, he asked, rather shyly, "What is it you wish to know about my galaxy?" Dr. Thaddeus spoke up: "What I want is to know about the Solar System, a collection of heavenly bodies revolving about one of the stars in your galaxy. The star about which they revolve is called 'the Sun.'" "Humph," said the librarian of the Milky Way, "it was hard enough to hit upon the right galaxy, but to hit upon the right star in the galaxy is far more difficult. I know that there are about three hundred billion stars in the galaxy, but I have no knowledge, myself, that would distinguish one of them from another. I believe, however, that at one time a list of the whole three hundred billion was demanded by the Administration and that it is still stored in the basement. If you think it worth while, I will engage special labor from the Other Place to search for this particular star."

It was agreed that, since the question had arisen and since Dr. Thaddeus was evidently suffering some distress, this might be the wisest course.

Several years later, a very weary and dispirited tetrahedron presented himself before the galactic sub-librarian. "I have," he said, "at last discovered the particular star concerning which inquiries have been made, but I am quite at a loss to imagine why it has aroused any special interest. It closely resembles a great many other stars in the same galaxy. It is of average size and temperature, and is surrounded by very much smaller bodies called 'planets.' After minute investigation, I discovered that some, at least, of these planets have parasites, and I think that this thing which has been making inquiries must be one of them."

At this point, Dr. Thaddeus burst out in a passionate and indignant lament: "Why, oh why, did the Creator conceal from us poor inhabitants of Earth that it was not we who prompted Him to create the Heavens? Throughout my long life, I have served Him diligently, believing that He would notice my service and reward me with Eternal Bliss. And now, it seems that He was not even aware that I existed. You tell me that I am an infinitesimal animalcule on a tiny body revolving round an insignificant member of a collection of three hundred billion stars, which is only one of many millions of such collections. I cannot bear it, and can no longer adore my Creator." "Very well," said the janitor, "then you can go to the Other Place." Here the theologian awoke.

"The power of Satan over our sleeping imagination is terrifying," he muttered.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2229
I loved that. It serves as a powerful reminder of just how insignificant we are in this vast universe of ours. Also, Hail Satan! Believe it or not, Satanism spouts just that message: you are but one microbe in the universe. Don't worry about the afterlife and just enjoy your life in the here and now.

Sabby

Sabby

#2230


What the hell happened to AE? :/ I used to look up to these guys.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2231
It's FreeThoughtBlogs, the most ironically-named site on the web. This Mitchell person is very naive in his discussion.

Sabby

Sabby

#2232
That's me. They later responded with "We don't have to explain it to you"

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#2233
Oh well then. Check out Thunderf00t's series on feminism in atheism if you're wondering where they went wrong. It outlines it pretty exhaustively. It started with the Elevatorgate fiasco.

Xeno Killer 2179

Xeno Killer 2179

#2234
Good. This thread is still going.

So is faith/belief/spirituality all just a result of us humans having too much time on our hands?

Spoiler
Like right now, I only ask this because I have nothing else to do.  :laugh:
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