Theology

Started by Sabby, Sep 01, 2013, 02:51:02 AM

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BANE

BANE

#1725
It's kind of insulting to say "science did this" or "science did that".

Science is a methodology. It's people who do things.

It'd be like saying "Hey, see that Ikea bed? Yeah, the included instructions did that".

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#1726
Science is the tool people use. Without it, people wouldn't have accomplished anything.

BANE

BANE

#1727
Ok...

Crazy Rich


DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#1729
Quote from: BANE on May 23, 2014, 01:01:43 AM
Ok...

Well think about it. Science is only applying a name to phenomenon that has always existed. It's a tool we use. Had we not developed said tool, humans wouldn't have progressed in the world.

Crazy Rich

Crazy Rich

#1730
Though we have benefited from science that's not entirely accurate, unless you're a droid.

BANE

BANE

#1731
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 23, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: BANE on May 23, 2014, 01:01:43 AM
Ok...

Well think about it. Science is only applying a name to phenomenon that has always existed. It's a tool we use. Had we not developed said tool, humans wouldn't have progressed in the world.
But it's useless without the innovative, inspired and diligent minds who use it.

Like a hammer. Or a set of Ikea bed instructions.

So why credit the tool?

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#1732
Because without the tool, the bed wouldn't have been built.

Sabby

Sabby

#1733
This is why I try not to misuse the word Atheist. It gets enough misrepresentation from both the willfully and genuinely ignorant.

Atheism = lack of belief in a God. There, someone has to restate it ever 3 or 4 pages, but that's what Atheism is. That can mean a rejection of God (God is not real) or a mere lack of belief (I'm not sure). Atheism has absolutely zero stance on anything other then this one issue.

To say Niel Degrasse Tyson is an 'advanced Atheist' because he has more to say on the matter is like saying chocolate milk is an 'advanced milk' because there's more then just milk in it.

Most of the time when someone misuses the word Atheist, they really mean Humanist, Naturalist, or just Skeptic.

Speaking of hammers...

I have dubbed him Hammer of God

Cal427eb

Cal427eb

#1734
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 23, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: BANE on May 23, 2014, 01:01:43 AM
Ok...

Well think about it. Science is only applying a name to phenomenon that has always existed. It's a tool we use. Had we not developed said tool, humans wouldn't have progressed in the world.
That's not what science is. Science is the study of phenomenon. It isn't the phenomenon.

Crazy Rich

Crazy Rich

#1735
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 23, 2014, 01:40:08 AM
Because without the tool, the bed wouldn't have been built.

Without the mind, there would be no tool...  :P

BANE

BANE

#1736
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 23, 2014, 01:40:08 AM
Because without the tool, the bed wouldn't have been built.
You don't understand.

Noone ever understands.


Sabby

Sabby

#1737
I think you guys are looking at it wrong. Instead of trying to figure out which spawned the other (was it the science or the science guy?), doesn't it make more sense that they are two parts of one thing? Humans make sense of the world, and they are always trying to make that task easier. The scientific method is the inevitable result of that.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#1738
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 23, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 23, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: BANE on May 23, 2014, 01:01:43 AM
Ok...

Well think about it. Science is only applying a name to phenomenon that has always existed. It's a tool we use. Had we not developed said tool, humans wouldn't have progressed in the world.
That's not what science is. Science is the study of phenomenon. It isn't the phenomenon.

Yes, hence why I said it's the tool we use. For example, science didn't discover gravity necessarily, as gravity itself has been around since the dawn the time. Science just allowed us to give it a name.

BANE

BANE

#1739
No it didn't.

A person gave it a name. Newton.

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