Theology

Started by Sabby, Sep 01, 2013, 02:51:02 AM

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KirklandSignature

KirklandSignature

#930
Quote from: Gilfryd on Apr 03, 2014, 11:20:35 PM
That's another thing, the idea of a god and a devil. Good and evil. Black and white. It's so stupid. You can't divide it that way. Just look at American politics. The world is more intricate than that. Even then, if god is this all-powerful thing, why doesn't he just walk into hell and kick Satan's ass? Does the creator of the universe just keep this pain in his ass around for shits n giggles? And if the devil wants you to mess around and go against god, why does he punish you once you get to his place? Aren't you on his side? It's so flawed.


Well in reality, there really is only good and evil. There are no gray areas.  You can lump all human behavior into those two categories. Everyone can agree that Nazi Germany was evil and everyone can agree that the allies were forces of good. Richard Dawkins is a f**king saint whereas the pope is the most evil motherf**ker there ever was.









BANE

BANE

#931
Haha you're so dumb.

maledoro

maledoro

#932
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 12:58:11 PMWell in reality, there really is only good and evil. There are no gray areas.
Spoken like a true believer of the Abrahamic god.

Sabby

Sabby

#933
Yeah, I could throw out any number of topics right now that would divide the thread and probably spawn a whole new one just to continue with the creation of greys.

Absolute morality is a myth for people who don't like facing reality.

KirklandSignature

KirklandSignature

#934
Quote from: maledoro on Apr 04, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 12:58:11 PMWell in reality, there really is only good and evil. There are no gray areas.
Spoken like a true believer of the Abrahamic god.


So logically, there is a gray area? How can one be evil and good at the same time? Are you saying Hitler had good in him? What about the Boston terrorists or the 9/11'ers? You're either completely good or consumed by evil.







Sabby

Sabby

#935
You're using extreme examples of moral bankruptcy to demonstrate that all morality is simplistic?

Hitler? Evil f**kwit, we agree.

Taliban who hijacked the plane? Evil f**kwits, we agree.

The guy on the street who shot a known pedophile after the legal system failed to deal with him for over a decade? Do we agree on that? Can we? Was this man justified? Was he not? If he took it too far, does this make him evil? If so, why not?

See what just happened? That was a moment of moral complexity. It's a question that we would not come to a neat and tidy consensus on. If true morality existed, we would all be able to say 'he's bad' or 'he's good' with zero discussion, but the matter is more complicated then that. Believing otherwise is delusional.

The1PerfectOrganism

The1PerfectOrganism

#936
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: maledoro on Apr 04, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 12:58:11 PMWell in reality, there really is only good and evil. There are no gray areas.
Spoken like a true believer of the Abrahamic god.


So logically, there is a gray area? How can one be evil and good at the same time? Are you saying Hitler had good in him? What about the Boston terrorists or the 9/11'ers? You're either completely good or consumed by evil.

Wrong.

KirklandSignature

KirklandSignature

#937
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 04, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
You're using extreme examples of moral bankruptcy to demonstrate that all morality is simplistic?

Hitler? Evil f**kwit, we agree.

Taliban who hijacked the plane? Evil f**kwits, we agree.

The guy on the street who shot a known pedophile after the legal system failed to deal with him for over a decade? Do we agree on that? Can we? Was this man justified? Was he not? If he took it too far, does this make him evil? If so, why not?

See what just happened? That was a moment of moral complexity. It's a question that we would not come to a neat and tidy consensus on. If true morality existed, we would all be able to say 'he's bad' or 'he's good' with zero discussion, but the matter is more complicated then that. Believing otherwise is delusional.


I guess you're right. In the end, it's not going to matter anyway. We're all going to have the same fate as Hitler and the terrorists. Rotting in the f**king ground... though hopefully with a clear conscience and being remembered for the good we did and not the horrific atrocities committed by the above.




Aspie

Aspie

#938
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS

Cal427eb

Cal427eb

#939
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 04, 2014, 03:43:14 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS
Just Kirkland showing off his stupidity.

Rong

Rong

#940
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Everyone can agree that Nazi Germany was evil.

Nope Captain America taught me it wasn't the nazi's it's Hydra... Everything evil in the world is Hydra, dog got run over by a car... Hydra.

Crazy Rich

Crazy Rich

#941
Quote from: Rong on Apr 04, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Apr 04, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Everyone can agree that Nazi Germany was evil.

Nope Captain America taught me it wasn't the nazi's it's Hydra... Everything evil in the world is Hydra, dog got run over by a car... Hydra.

A nice guy really likes a girl but gets friend zoned... HYDRA!

Rong

Rong

#942
You're learning rich.

Kimarhi

Kimarhi

#943
There were no Taliban responsible for 9/11.  That was Al Qaeda.  An offshoot of Hydra.




Rong

Rong

#944
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 04, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
There were no Taliban responsible for 9/11.  That was Al Qaeda.  An offshoot of Hydra.

Yep definitely hydra, pretty sure that's the plot outline for captain America 3

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