Bishop in Alien 3 - Human or Android?

[maledoro]

It's always gonna be a human to me. The ending of Alien³ was so cool with the cameo of Lance Henriksen and made it more exciting when he got his injury.
But clearly if you look at AvP the Bishop in Alien³ has to be an andriod. I wouldn't mind him being an android in the third one, but AvP didn't do justice to the franchise so i'm sticking with the original idea. Bishop is a human in the third one.

I "clearly" looked at both Alien³ and AVP and still wasn't confused by his appearances nor did I question his status as a human.

[Mr. Weyland]

I never thought it messed with the continuity, he human in AVP but if he's a human in Alien 3 he's human, but if he's an android he's an android.

If human, he's either a descendant of Charles Weyland or a look alike who was chosen by the company to talk to Ripley.

If he's an android he must have some kind of modifications to have red blood.

We might never have this question truly answered without another movie, we can only hope that there will be a movie one day with the answers but I am not holding my breath   

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

The only place I've ever heard even the insinuation that he was an android was a brief comment (I believe on Lance Henriksen's part) that was made out of confusion more than anything else. Everything else- the Quadrilogy commentary, the red blood pouring out of the wound, the wound itself, Bishop II's loud statement that he was human- all points to him being human. What happened in AVP as far as Weyland and his appearance is inconsequential to me as far as the facts behind Alien 3.

AVP was a continuity nightmare to begin with. While finding explanations for disasters is a natural facet of human nature, this is one conundrum not worth the philosophical debate.

[maledoro]

We might never have this question truly answered without another movie, we can only hope that there will be a movie one day with the answers but I am not holding my breath   

It was never a question to begin with. Anderson f**ked up and some people made an assumption.

I've read Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things and he gives several reasons why they do. Not all of them apply to those who believed that Bishop's creator was an android, but here are a couple of reasons that may apply:

Credo Consolans. More than any other, the reason why people believe weird things is because they want to. It feels good. It is comforting. It is consoling.

Simplicity. Immediate gratification of one's beliefs is all the made easier by simple explanations for an often complex and contingent world. Good and bad things happen to both good and bad people, seemingly at random. Scientific explanations are often complicated and require training and effort to work through.

[Karl]

Now, i don't want to be slapped in the face, but I choose to believe that Bishop II is an android. His injury seemed too severe for him to be anything but a droid (This is really the case when moviemakers intend one thing, but it looks like something else).  Everyhting that comes out of the Company's mouhtpiece is a lie. So what I'm saying is, I like the idea if him being a robot even if he is actually human, I just like the idea.

[maledoro]

Now, i don't want to be slapped in the face, but I choose to believe that Bishop II is an android. His injury seemed too severe for him to be anything but a droid

One more time: it wasn't that severe. People have endured worse without even being aware of it.

(This is really the case when moviemakers intend one thing, but it looks like something else).

If one knows of the intention, then they should honor it.

Everyhting that comes out of the Company's mouhtpiece is a lie. So what I'm saying is, I like the idea if him being a robot even if he is actually human, I just like the idea.

I like the plaid sky outside my window. I just like that sky...

[Karl]

   You shouldn't take this Bishop business so seriously lol 

[maledoro]

  You shouldn't take this Bishop business so seriously lol 

It's not the "Bishop" side of it, it's what's behind it. I get uneasy when people start to believe things just because it makes them feel good, and no other reason why.

A while ago, a girl had admitted to me that she had voted for George W. Bush. I asked her why. She answered, "Oh, I don't know. I just like him." Later on, she was bitching about some things that he was responsible for but couldn't accept that he was the root of her troubles.

[Karl]

Ugh, whatever, it's a science fiction movie we're talking about here. It's no the same.

[SM]

(This is really the case when moviemakers intend one thing, but it looks like something else). 

No it's really a case of people watching a film but not paying attention.

[maledoro]

Ugh, whatever, it's a science fiction movie we're talking about here. It's no the same.

Again, it's the same thought process.

[Karl]

(This is really the case when moviemakers intend one thing, but it looks like something else). 

No it's really a case of people watching a film but not paying attention.

If the filmmakers had said that yes, he is an android, people would be telling a different story here. It had nothing to do with people (me I guess) not paying attention. And maledoro, stop your BS, just stop it. You've been in this topic like a damn looney slapping your "essay" into other people's faces. Fine, he's a human, happy now? Oh nowait.., .I'm still not really sure he is, maybe I should read your "essay" again.

[Fitzley]

Those that worked on the film said that he is human. That should be enough to end it right there. Maybe you should read his essay again, its well thought out and a reasoned argument...which is more than I've seen for the android argument.

[Cellien]

Maybe they made him appear more human since they new Ripley didn't much trust androids.. (though she obviously gained trust after the Bishop in Aliens - THOUGH at the same time, Weyland industries didn't know she had developed a trust for Bishop.).. Tough call, but since he was in AvP as a human... unless he was cloned sometime during the years, I'd have to go with android.

[Karl]

Read his "essay". Cloning is illegal lol.