Continuing the off topic (for this thread) discussion.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PMOk... so thats an excuse?
Vickers hiring the two scientists is an explanation.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PMThen the movie should explain the viewer that she hired a bunch of idiots.
"Prometheus" does have dialogue which explains Vicker's view of the mission.
- Vickers thought Shaw's / Holloway's hypothesis about the Engineers was nonsense.
- So it turns out that Vickers hired two scientists who thought like she did; who also believed that the Engineer hypothesis was nonsense as shown in the crew briefing scene.
- As for characters in an Alien franchise movie making dumb mistakes, this is part of every Alien film because;
1. A character who does something wrong is a standard horrror movie trope.
2. Why are there characters who misjudge the situation / risks in movies with horror/killers? Because mistakes are often essential to the later deaths of people happening in the story.
It's a basic idea in these kinds of stories.
- And such wrong behavior can spill over to science fiction such as with "Jurassic Park' where 'experts' make one bad move after another.
- As for the plausibility of the behavior of Milburn and Fifield? In our world snake experts can get killed by snakes and airline pilots can get lost because they are distracted.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PMAgain the movie is too vague on their interests or their relation with Vickers. It would have been better if they had some sort of hidden agenda with vickers or something.
I understand the dislike for the more vague style of the story.
Ridley Scott can do this with his science fiction as he did with "Blade Runner". (Scott sometimes likes to make his SF stories vague so viewers can argue about it,)
Accepting that vague style or not is a personal taste thing.
- Some viewers want the entire story to be crystal clear.
- Others are bored with multiple explanations and want the plot to be more vague.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PM That dialogue is bat-sht crazy... Specially the way he brought it, and shows how horrid those 2 characters are written.
In a movie some people can act 'crazy' including scientists.
- One idea from the beginning of science fiction is the mad scientist. In SF 'mad' is = to 'bat-sht' crazy.
- In the Alien franchise; with "Alien", the science officer, Ash, does crazy, reckless things (like Kane eating with the crew) which sabotages the secret orders to get the creature to earth.
- With "Alien Ressurection" the scientists do an extremely risky experiment with the xenomorphs which sets them loose and a scientist while trapped by the Queen, tells Ripley bizarre, wacky things.
- Science characters can act this way in SF.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PMDeleted scene's do not count, since only fanboys seen these
AVPgalaxy is an enthusiast site where some people go over draft scripts in detail, post multiple photos of each film's production and can review every deleted scene (and all other Blu-ray extras).
- So, while you are not interested in that extra stuff, which is fine, there are lots of people here, like me, who are interested.
Quote from: Hemi on Jul 19, 2017, 12:27:03 PMNo. And it does. People should not need a fcking manual trying to watch Prometheus. Srry...
* It all depends on the personal taste of the viewer.
I also understand that many people dislike "Prometheus" and that's fine with me.
- But on an Alien / Predator fan site like this, with includes the Alien franchise movies, you will find a few people who like "Prometheus" a lot.
Anyway, there is no absolutely correct personal taste.
I'm most willing to agree to disagree and move on.