Alien: Covenant Box Office Performance

Started by John73, May 14, 2017, 05:51:54 PM

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Spidey3121

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 23, 2017, 07:07:14 PM
People hate Fassbender? When did that happen?

First I'm hearing of it :laugh:

Also, these Passengers comparisons are weird for a variety of reasons.

To hit $100 mil, Covenant would need to pull a ~2.77 multiplier. Prometheus had a ~2.45 multiplier. Simply put, it needs to be leggier. Memorial Day weekend gives it a chance to do just that.

Robopadna

Quote from: bb-15 on May 23, 2017, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: cucuchu on May 23, 2017, 02:29:59 PM
How does everyone think Covenant will hold up this weekend domestically? With the holiday weekend, I'm hoping for maybe 25 million...

Me too which would keep it ahead of "Passengers" which made ~ $21 million its second weekend and that ended up with a US total of $100 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=passengers2016.htm

If AC gets to $100 million in the US, then things could be OK in terms of it making a profit.

Quote from: cucuchu on May 23, 2017, 02:29:59 PM
that is probably being too optimistic though.

We'll see.

;)

I could be wrong but historically there is about a 0 chance of it ending up with 100 million.

Darth Vile

Darth Vile

#392
Quote from: SuicideDoors on May 23, 2017, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on May 23, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Top 10 films May 19-21 in UK.

1. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, £2,501,993 from 564 sites (new)
2. Alien: Covenant, £2,127,347 from 631 sites. Total: £10,003,742 (two weeks)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, £1,942,687 from 599 sites. Total: £36,309,702 (four weeks)
4. Snatched, £842,489 from 465 sites (new)
5. The Boss Baby, £414,954 from 527 sites. Total: £26,819,979 (seven weeks)
6. A Dog's Purpose, £263,233 from 432 sites. Total: £2,464,023 (three weeks)
7. Fast & Furious 8, £230,868 from 346 sites. Total: £29,385,156 (six weeks)
8. Beauty and the Beast, £158,496 from 373 sites. Total: £71,878,441 (10 weeks)
9. Colossal, £150,642 from 145 sites (new)
10. Half Girlfriend, £115,183 from 67 sites (new)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/23/king-arthur-alien-covenant-uk-box-office

In UK Covenant made 10 millions in 2 weeks. Prometheus in total made nearly 40 millions! Covenant is gonna flop BIG TIME!

Prometheus was Scott's biggest ever hit in the UK. Covenant is actually doing respectable business over here - it's in America it's struggling.
That's not a surprise... Covenant is almost like an arthouse film trying to be commercial. I'm not sure that naturally jives with American audiences as much as European's.

Robopadna

Quote from: Darth Vile on May 23, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on May 23, 2017, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on May 23, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Top 10 films May 19-21 in UK.

1. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, £2,501,993 from 564 sites (new)
2. Alien: Covenant, £2,127,347 from 631 sites. Total: £10,003,742 (two weeks)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, £1,942,687 from 599 sites. Total: £36,309,702 (four weeks)
4. Snatched, £842,489 from 465 sites (new)
5. The Boss Baby, £414,954 from 527 sites. Total: £26,819,979 (seven weeks)
6. A Dog's Purpose, £263,233 from 432 sites. Total: £2,464,023 (three weeks)
7. Fast & Furious 8, £230,868 from 346 sites. Total: £29,385,156 (six weeks)
8. Beauty and the Beast, £158,496 from 373 sites. Total: £71,878,441 (10 weeks)
9. Colossal, £150,642 from 145 sites (new)
10. Half Girlfriend, £115,183 from 67 sites (new)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/23/king-arthur-alien-covenant-uk-box-office

In UK Covenant made 10 millions in 2 weeks. Prometheus in total made nearly 40 millions! Covenant is gonna flop BIG TIME!

Prometheus was Scott's biggest ever hit in the UK. Covenant is actually doing respectable business over here - it's in America it's struggling.
That's not a surprise... Covenant is almost like an arthouse film trying to be commercial. I'm not sure that naturally jives with American audiences as much as European's.

I really don't see it as being any more of an arthouse film than inception which made massive amounts of money in the US.

Darth Vile

Quote from: Robopadna on May 23, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on May 23, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on May 23, 2017, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on May 23, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Top 10 films May 19-21 in UK.

1. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, £2,501,993 from 564 sites (new)
2. Alien: Covenant, £2,127,347 from 631 sites. Total: £10,003,742 (two weeks)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, £1,942,687 from 599 sites. Total: £36,309,702 (four weeks)
4. Snatched, £842,489 from 465 sites (new)
5. The Boss Baby, £414,954 from 527 sites. Total: £26,819,979 (seven weeks)
6. A Dog's Purpose, £263,233 from 432 sites. Total: £2,464,023 (three weeks)
7. Fast & Furious 8, £230,868 from 346 sites. Total: £29,385,156 (six weeks)
8. Beauty and the Beast, £158,496 from 373 sites. Total: £71,878,441 (10 weeks)
9. Colossal, £150,642 from 145 sites (new)
10. Half Girlfriend, £115,183 from 67 sites (new)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/23/king-arthur-alien-covenant-uk-box-office

In UK Covenant made 10 millions in 2 weeks. Prometheus in total made nearly 40 millions! Covenant is gonna flop BIG TIME!

Prometheus was Scott's biggest ever hit in the UK. Covenant is actually doing respectable business over here - it's in America it's struggling.
That's not a surprise... Covenant is almost like an arthouse film trying to be commercial. I'm not sure that naturally jives with American audiences as much as European's.

I really don't see it as being any more of an arthouse film than inception which made massive amounts of money in the US.
Nolan's Inception was off the back of a hugely popular film i.e. The Dark Knight. It also starred one of the biggest film stars (in terms of Hollywood). It had a much bigger budget and had substantially more action... and on a bigger scale. Inception is the better film, IMO, but its certainly more mainstream in terms of tone and structure, even if the concept was quite esoteric.

Robopadna

Robopadna

#395
Quote from: Darth Vile on May 23, 2017, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: Robopadna on May 23, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on May 23, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on May 23, 2017, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on May 23, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Top 10 films May 19-21 in UK.

1. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, £2,501,993 from 564 sites (new)
2. Alien: Covenant, £2,127,347 from 631 sites. Total: £10,003,742 (two weeks)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, £1,942,687 from 599 sites. Total: £36,309,702 (four weeks)
4. Snatched, £842,489 from 465 sites (new)
5. The Boss Baby, £414,954 from 527 sites. Total: £26,819,979 (seven weeks)
6. A Dog's Purpose, £263,233 from 432 sites. Total: £2,464,023 (three weeks)
7. Fast & Furious 8, £230,868 from 346 sites. Total: £29,385,156 (six weeks)
8. Beauty and the Beast, £158,496 from 373 sites. Total: £71,878,441 (10 weeks)
9. Colossal, £150,642 from 145 sites (new)
10. Half Girlfriend, £115,183 from 67 sites (new)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/23/king-arthur-alien-covenant-uk-box-office

In UK Covenant made 10 millions in 2 weeks. Prometheus in total made nearly 40 millions! Covenant is gonna flop BIG TIME!

Prometheus was Scott's biggest ever hit in the UK. Covenant is actually doing respectable business over here - it's in America it's struggling.
That's not a surprise... Covenant is almost like an arthouse film trying to be commercial. I'm not sure that naturally jives with American audiences as much as European's.

I really don't see it as being any more of an arthouse film than inception which made massive amounts of money in the US.
Nolan's Inception was off the back of a hugely popular film i.e. The Dark Knight. It also starred one of the biggest film stars (in terms of Hollywood). It had a much bigger budget and had substantially more action... and on a bigger scale. Inception is the better film, IMO, but its certainly more mainstream in terms of tone and structure, even if the concept was quite esoteric.

Inception was way more indie than Covenant in most ways (Covenant is a horror film but that doesn't make it 'indie').  Everywhere from structure to tone.  Are you in a reality or not?  You could say Covenant maybe is borderline fairy tale/nightmare but overall it's sort of all over the place.  Honestly Covenant, like Nolan's movies, tries to be a summer blockbuster but inject a few higher concepts in it.

Much like Scott himself, it can't settle on one theme to really follow.  I don't think that makes it any more indie than any other movie, just unfocused.

Also, let's be honest, you are comparing it to a guy who just came off making a HUGE mainstream film in the Martian with one of the more bankable actors in hollywood.

Spidey3121

Both Inception & Alien Covenant are mainstream blockbusters.

BishopShouldGo

Yup. Stop making excuses for Covenant. Some films just don't do well.

Robopadna

So it dropped back down under GotG2 on Monday (it was also behind it on Sunday).  It's Monday actually showed a moderate drop off in line with Prometheus'

dkwookie

Quote from: Jonesy1974 on May 23, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on May 23, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
I am surprised Ridley hasn't nabbed Hardy for Prometheus or Covenant. He was at both premieres, and is a big admirer of the guy.

Covenant had amazing actors but nary a Charlize Theron or Idris Elba. Should've stuck James Franco and Tom Hardy in as Oram, Tennessee or Lope.

No way, Billy was outstanding as Oram


Quote from: cucuchu on May 23, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 23, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 12:18:16 AM
I would prefer Sir Ridley Scott Directing ALIEN 5 with Sigourney Weaver very soon.

Neil Blomkamp is very overrated especially in AVP Forums.

The truth is Neil Blomkamp is very, very mediocre. He ISN'T capable of did a masterpiece like ALIEN or ALIENS.


Yea, i prefer very, very mediocre over AC train wreck.

It's obvious you want a Full Action Aliens movie.

In that case, Neil Blomkamp is Mediocre TOO in terms of Action. They could get a Better Action Director.


Quote from: Protozoid on May 23, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
Passengers had two huge stars and appealed to women. Only 30 percent of Covenant's crowd is women, and its only stars - Fassbender and the xeno - are actually possibly hurting the box office.  One analyst said Fassbender was a turnoff for regular audiences. I don't foresee any outcome where this is considered a hit. Not a flop, either, but certainly an under-performer.

Michael Fassbender is one of the greatest actors of all time BUT people hate him for some weird reason. Like Russell Crowe.

ALIEN: COVENANT 2 needs Tom Hardy. Hardy is a bigger star than Fassbender and he is a big fan of Sir Ridley Scott.

First, they need to keep Fassbender. He plays the role of David very well and that story needs to continue in some regard.

Second, yes I am completely on board with having Tom Hardy in the film. He was the better actor (IMO) in the Revenant. The problem we run into is that big actors require big money and Fox is probably going to limit Ridley in that regard.

I reckon Tom hardy would take a pay cut to work with Ridley

That's a good point actually. Ridley gave him his first job in Black Hawk Down so Tom has soft spot for Ridley. Same with Brad Pitt who Ridley launched in Thelma and Louise. I think he took a pay cut to appear in The Counsellor

Robopadna

Quote from: Dkwookie on May 23, 2017, 11:18:35 PM
Quote from: Jonesy1974 on May 23, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on May 23, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
I am surprised Ridley hasn't nabbed Hardy for Prometheus or Covenant. He was at both premieres, and is a big admirer of the guy.

Covenant had amazing actors but nary a Charlize Theron or Idris Elba. Should've stuck James Franco and Tom Hardy in as Oram, Tennessee or Lope.

No way, Billy was outstanding as Oram


Quote from: cucuchu on May 23, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 23, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 12:18:16 AM
I would prefer Sir Ridley Scott Directing ALIEN 5 with Sigourney Weaver very soon.

Neil Blomkamp is very overrated especially in AVP Forums.

The truth is Neil Blomkamp is very, very mediocre. He ISN'T capable of did a masterpiece like ALIEN or ALIENS.


Yea, i prefer very, very mediocre over AC train wreck.

It's obvious you want a Full Action Aliens movie.

In that case, Neil Blomkamp is Mediocre TOO in terms of Action. They could get a Better Action Director.


Quote from: Protozoid on May 23, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
Passengers had two huge stars and appealed to women. Only 30 percent of Covenant's crowd is women, and its only stars - Fassbender and the xeno - are actually possibly hurting the box office.  One analyst said Fassbender was a turnoff for regular audiences. I don't foresee any outcome where this is considered a hit. Not a flop, either, but certainly an under-performer.

Michael Fassbender is one of the greatest actors of all time BUT people hate him for some weird reason. Like Russell Crowe.

ALIEN: COVENANT 2 needs Tom Hardy. Hardy is a bigger star than Fassbender and he is a big fan of Sir Ridley Scott.

First, they need to keep Fassbender. He plays the role of David very well and that story needs to continue in some regard.

Second, yes I am completely on board with having Tom Hardy in the film. He was the better actor (IMO) in the Revenant. The problem we run into is that big actors require big money and Fox is probably going to limit Ridley in that regard.

I reckon Tom hardy would take a pay cut to work with Ridley

That's a good point actually. Ridley gave him his first job in Black Hawk Down so Tom has soft spot for Ridley. Same with Brad Pitt who Ridley launched in Thelma and Louise. I think he took a pay cut to appear in The Counsellor

Guys, first, everyone took a pay cut to be in the Counselor.  Second, Pitt is NOT going to appear in Alien and 99% sure Hardy isn't either.  What is this?

Fassbender has been great and seems to love the character.  His character will be a main one moving forward.  Why would you switch?

dkwookie

dkwookie

#401
Quote from: Robopadna on May 23, 2017, 11:21:50 PM
Quote from: Dkwookie on May 23, 2017, 11:18:35 PM
Quote from: Jonesy1974 on May 23, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on May 23, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
I am surprised Ridley hasn't nabbed Hardy for Prometheus or Covenant. He was at both premieres, and is a big admirer of the guy.

Covenant had amazing actors but nary a Charlize Theron or Idris Elba. Should've stuck James Franco and Tom Hardy in as Oram, Tennessee or Lope.

No way, Billy was outstanding as Oram


Quote from: cucuchu on May 23, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 23, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on May 23, 2017, 12:18:16 AM
I would prefer Sir Ridley Scott Directing ALIEN 5 with Sigourney Weaver very soon.

Neil Blomkamp is very overrated especially in AVP Forums.

The truth is Neil Blomkamp is very, very mediocre. He ISN'T capable of did a masterpiece like ALIEN or ALIENS.


Yea, i prefer very, very mediocre over AC train wreck.

It's obvious you want a Full Action Aliens movie.

In that case, Neil Blomkamp is Mediocre TOO in terms of Action. They could get a Better Action Director.


Quote from: Protozoid on May 23, 2017, 06:08:02 PM
Passengers had two huge stars and appealed to women. Only 30 percent of Covenant's crowd is women, and its only stars - Fassbender and the xeno - are actually possibly hurting the box office.  One analyst said Fassbender was a turnoff for regular audiences. I don't foresee any outcome where this is considered a hit. Not a flop, either, but certainly an under-performer.

Michael Fassbender is one of the greatest actors of all time BUT people hate him for some weird reason. Like Russell Crowe.

ALIEN: COVENANT 2 needs Tom Hardy. Hardy is a bigger star than Fassbender and he is a big fan of Sir Ridley Scott.

First, they need to keep Fassbender. He plays the role of David very well and that story needs to continue in some regard.

Second, yes I am completely on board with having Tom Hardy in the film. He was the better actor (IMO) in the Revenant. The problem we run into is that big actors require big money and Fox is probably going to limit Ridley in that regard.

I reckon Tom hardy would take a pay cut to work with Ridley

That's a good point actually. Ridley gave him his first job in Black Hawk Down so Tom has soft spot for Ridley. Same with Brad Pitt who Ridley launched in Thelma and Louise. I think he took a pay cut to appear in The Counsellor

Guys, first, everyone took a pay cut to be in the Counselor.  Second, Pitt is NOT going to appear in Alien and 99% sure Hardy isn't either.  What is this?

Fassbender has been great and seems to love the character.  His character will be a main one moving forward.  Why would you switch?

I wouldn't switch but the question was about getting a star name attached to add some box office clout. Given the links between Tom and Ridley I think it was a good point raised. Ridley is producing Toms tv show Taboo and given he gave him his first job I am sure he could pull in a favour


But it's all moot speculation anyway because based on the numbers so far there won't be another Alien from Ridley. For one I am glad. I would rather see him do Battle Of Britain. He only has so many films left in him so try something fresh.
Personally I would get Gareth Edwards to do the next Alien. He did a stellar job with Rogue One

BishopShouldGo

Lindelof said for a brief moment, Pitt wanted to play David in Prometheus.

Robopadna

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on May 24, 2017, 12:03:53 AM
Lindelof said for a brief moment, Pitt wanted to play David in Prometheus.

The brief moment is all it is. Fassbender is perfect and there isn't really going to be another character.

Spidey3121

If the film plays exactly like Prometheus it will earn ~$88 mil, which when adjusted for inflation would be the lowest grossing film in the franchise apart from Requiem. Even if it hits $100 mil, which isn't a mathematical impossibility by any means, the only other film it would finish ahead of is Resurrection. I've probably posted a link to this page before, but check it out:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=alien.htm

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