How do you feel about sexual themes in Alien franchise

Started by Thatguy2068, Apr 04, 2024, 12:19:30 AM

How do you feel about sexual themes in Alien franchise

I would like it no matter what
Depends on how it done
No Opinion
Prefer it be not in the movie
I would despise it
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How do you feel about sexual themes in Alien franchise (Read 2,433 times)

SiL

I said. What I said.

Thatguy2068

Quote from: SiL on Apr 07, 2024, 04:16:42 AMI said. What I said.
But how about the comics? How do you feel about those or is it the same answer?

E. Shaw

Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 07, 2024, 04:18:40 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 07, 2024, 04:16:42 AMI said. What I said.
But how about the comics? How do you feel about those or is it the same answer?

Species has comics?

Local Trouble

An adaptation of the first movie hardly counts.

E. Shaw

This makes me want to re-watch Species. :)


Local Trouble

Those last two weren't even published.

Thatguy2068

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 07, 2024, 05:03:59 AMThose last two weren't even published.
Oh... I'm guessing I'm not very observant person

E. Shaw

Naked Aggression, that's a title that would get attention.

Cougerboy

Cougerboy

#84
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 04, 2024, 12:19:30 AMSince the Alien franchise first came in, there had themes about Sexual ideals such as forced pregnancy, assault, and Many more can be see within the movie. But overtime the franchise seem to focus less on those theme, only a couple of time in the prequel and Games. Now if it would came back, how would you feel about it?

If we are talking about sex, someone correct me if I am wrong, but weren't there orignally supposed to be a sex scene between Dallas and Ripley? Fans have always wondered about their relationship, if it goes beyond merely professional (and there are hints I guess Dallas had more than a professional interest in Ripley), but that was never really explored.

I think its good they left the relationship between Dallas and Ripley vague, a sex scene wasn't really necessary. And there were references to the sexual theme of Alien anyway, when Ash rammed a rolled up magazine down Ripley's throat, next to some porn magazines.

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: Cougerboy on Apr 09, 2024, 08:37:05 AM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 04, 2024, 12:19:30 AMSince the Alien franchise first came in, there had themes about Sexual ideals such as forced pregnancy, assault, and Many more can be see within the movie. But overtime the franchise seem to focus less on those theme, only a couple of time in the prequel and Games. Now if it would came back, how would you feel about it?

If we are talking about sex, someone correct me if I am wrong, but weren't there orignally supposed to be a sex scene between Dallas and Ripley? Fans have always wondered about their relationship, if it goes beyond merely professional (and there are hints I guess Dallas had more than a professional interest in Ripley), but that was never really explored.

I think its good they left the relationship between Dallas and Ripley amibigous, a sex scene wasn't really necessary. And there were references to the sexual them of Alien anyway, when Ash rammed a rolled up magazine down Ripley's throat, next to some porn magazines.

Yep there was a version of the story where there was supposed to be one. It was never filmed.

SiL

All the crew was shagging except Ash and this was a reason to think he was suspicious. Also deleted, but filmed.

BigDaddyJohn

Oh shit I didn't know that.

Neila

Neila

#88
I don't know if there is an actual filmed scene in which Ripley and Dalles get closer, but the scene with the distrust of Ash was filmed, that's right.
Ripley asks Lambert if she ever hooked up with Ash.
I think it's in the deleted scenes of the Alien Quadrilogy.


Since the Alien films are actually always about the reproduction of the alien, and in a certain sense about violent sex. The topic is always present simply because of the facehuggers.

But Lamberst's death is such an open matter.
The new cut makes it seem like the alien is attacking Lambert with his tail in an area that isn't so pleasant. (it was originally in Brat's death scene)


Does anyone have the book The Making of Species?
In some of Giger's drawings there are some pretty rough actions by Sil as she sexually abuses her victims. but they were a bit too daring for the studio.

Alien could also go in similar directions.
Not necessarily that the alien is actually having sex with a human, but it could be "exploring" a human, so to speak, while slowly killing.
Similar to Lambert's death scene.
Was it Powell who said "the alien might as well f**k you before it kills you"?

I could imagine that Fede could do something similar in Romulus, but it's in the hands of the studio and might be too daring for them.

SiL

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 09, 2024, 12:26:53 PMOh shit I didn't know that.
Right after Ripley takes command and tells aaah she has control of Mother, the scene continued to have Ripley all Lambert if she'd ever slept with Ash.

Also I'm reasonably sure the scene where Ripley goes to Dallas in the shuttle for their boning session was filmed as a screen test (the lead up, not the boning).

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