Started by Corporal Hicks, Oct 01, 2018, 12:00:49 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:05:48 PMFred Dekker has posted an explanation of why the Emissary Predators were cut in the comments on his FB page.
QuoteIt was a mutual decision. We grew concerned that we were already making a movie that veered away from fan expectations, and when we showed it to some small, select audiences, our concerns were validated... so we removed the Emissaries AND the hybrids in favor of a traditional "hunt" finale, which -- in my opinion -- squandered the notion that the Predators have a larger, unseen civilization and other concerns besides sports hunting -- like, for instance, saving their civilization from extinction. It was decided that this, plus the humor in the film, was too much for the Predator fan base to swallow... and sadly, the box office and critical reception proved we were right. We should have made a cheaper, more predictable movie, and not tried to do something new.But what do I know? I was just the co-writer.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 08, 2018, 07:57:32 PMCopy and paste of what he said - It was a mutual decision. We grew concerned that we were already making a movie that veered away from fan expectations, and when we showed it to some small, select audiences, our concerns were validated... so we removed the Emissaries AND the hybrids in favor of a traditional "hunt" finale, which -- in my opinion -- squandered the notion that the Predators have a larger, unseen civilization and other concerns besides sports hunting -- like, for instance, saving their civilization from extinction. It was decided that this, plus the humor in the film, was too much for the Predator fan base to swallow... and sadly, the box office and critical reception proved we were right. We should have made a cheaper, more predictable movie, and not tried to do something new.But what do I know? I was just the co-writer.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 08:05:04 PMDoing something new was fine. Doing what they specifically did, less so...
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 01:10:31 PMSpeaking of comics, I think they can get away with "stylizing" Predator designs in ways that live action can't. Like there are a lot of Predator comics that heavily change up how Predator faces look ('Predator: Homeworld' comes to mind) and I can dig it on a "creative interpretation" level even if it's not my cup of tea, but translating some of those designs to live-action would be a disaster. I think a bunch of these concept drawings illustrate that pretty well.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 09, 2018, 11:31:24 AMThe hybrids were not removed though, Fugitive and Ultimate are hybrids.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 08, 2018, 08:31:11 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 08, 2018, 07:57:32 PMCopy and paste of what he said - It was a mutual decision. We grew concerned that we were already making a movie that veered away from fan expectations, and when we showed it to some small, select audiences, our concerns were validated... so we removed the Emissaries AND the hybrids in favor of a traditional "hunt" finale, which -- in my opinion -- squandered the notion that the Predators have a larger, unseen civilization and other concerns besides sports hunting -- like, for instance, saving their civilization from extinction. It was decided that this, plus the humor in the film, was too much for the Predator fan base to swallow... and sadly, the box office and critical reception proved we were right. We should have made a cheaper, more predictable movie, and not tried to do something new.But what do I know? I was just the co-writer.So the problem was not the quality in scripting, casting, direction and execution, it was that they tried something new and the fans (and critics?) wanted predictable.Quote from: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 08:05:04 PMDoing something new was fine. Doing what they specifically did, less so... Indeed.
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 02:20:53 PMYeah, it seemed like a lost cause from the start. The version we got or the original, it would have made little difference overall.