Sure O Bannon and Shusett created the alien story, and Jim and John Thomas made the pred stries but the real credit should be given to the 2 men who greated these amazing creature designs in the first place, Giger and Winston for facks sake, sheesh.If it werent for those 2 we would have no alien and no Pred that we have come to know and live today.I personaly find it insulting that these 2 geniuses are not getting credit for there hard work, and without them these franchises probably most likely wouldnt be the thngs they are today without the creature designs we know today.