Posted by echobbase79
- May 24, 2017, 10:31:02 PMQuote from: SiL on May 24, 2017, 08:51:54 AM
The later drafts of AvPR actually had the PredAlien skin Ray the cop, which is simultaneously moronic and more sensible than what we got in the movie.
I agree with the moronic part, but how it is more sensible?
Posted by Laz
- May 24, 2017, 05:58:03 PMI'm one of the few who actually like this movie, if only because it satiated my adolescent thirst to see the cast of Dawson's Creek ripped to shreds.
Posted by SiL
- May 24, 2017, 08:51:54 AMThe later drafts of AvPR actually had the PredAlien skin Ray the cop, which is simultaneously moronic and more sensible than what we got in the movie.
Posted by SM
- May 24, 2017, 08:38:21 AMTurned a very tidy profit, but was slated by critics something chronic and they didn't get asked back to direct the second one. Which is still unreleased despite being shot in 2014.
Posted by The Cruentus
- May 24, 2017, 07:52:36 AMYeah, I believe there was talk about Fox wanting the Predalien to cloak and use weapons I think. That would have been ridiculous.
In regards to the Brothers, their second movie didn't do so well either.
In regards to the Brothers, their second movie didn't do so well either.
Posted by Samhain13
- May 24, 2017, 02:05:33 AMQuote from: D88M on May 23, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
avpr is a perfect example of amateur filmmaking in literally every sense
Well it was the Strauses first movie after all
.Still I think the biggest issue was the writer, the story was doomed from the start, surprisingly it could have ended up a lot worse.
Posted by SM
- May 23, 2017, 11:18:05 PMExcept for the bits where it's literally financed by a professional studio for tens of millions of dollars, using literally professional actors and crew.
Posted by D88M
- May 23, 2017, 11:15:20 PMavpr is a perfect example of amateur filmmaking in literally every sense
Posted by SM
- May 23, 2017, 09:06:53 PMOnce they got the weapons they were told to go to the middle of town to be evacuated.
Posted by The Cruentus
- May 23, 2017, 12:36:21 PMAPC are capable of bumping cars aside.
Motorcycles or even cycles can go between cars depending on space.
On foot will would allow them to go offroad and through the forests...which would actually make another good scene.
Once they got their weapons, they could have left immediately but they didn't.
Motorcycles or even cycles can go between cars depending on space.
On foot will would allow them to go offroad and through the forests...which would actually make another good scene.
Once they got their weapons, they could have left immediately but they didn't.
Posted by SM
- May 23, 2017, 12:25:43 PMSo - they're going to drive the APC over the banked up cars or something? By the time they get the Striker, they're told to get to the centre of town, which they do until Kelly twigs that something's up and they say they have to get out of town via helicopter.
Posted by The Cruentus
- May 23, 2017, 11:54:17 AMTraffic Jam? then they should have used the APC or just used a motorcycle or hell, run as fast as their legs could take them since between the store and the hospital there could have been a few hours, enough time to make a few miles on foot, of course guns would be needed then. Actually, that would have made for a good few scenes.
I understand that the sheriff would have obligations to prevent him from fleeing but civvies could leave at anytime.
When they get the weapons, they hold themselves up in the store instead of leaving.
Depends, in Arnie or Stallone action movies, the whole "only a flesh wound" thing is to be expected, hell its part of the amusement in some ways. But some movies have a more realistic tone, so it stands out more.
I understand that the sheriff would have obligations to prevent him from fleeing but civvies could leave at anytime.
When they get the weapons, they hold themselves up in the store instead of leaving.
Depends, in Arnie or Stallone action movies, the whole "only a flesh wound" thing is to be expected, hell its part of the amusement in some ways. But some movies have a more realistic tone, so it stands out more.
Posted by SM
- May 23, 2017, 11:22:41 AMQuoteCan't recall how far into the movie that scene is but if its when it becomes more obvious that there is some sort of infestion or major incident that is spreading, then the smart thing to do would be to leave town....which they could have at any time but when they do finally get round to it, they spend a lot of time trying to get to a helicopter.
This is addressed in the film.
a) There's a traffic jam.
b) Eddie is the Sheriff and in unable to make contact with anyone, which kinda needs to do rather than just run away.
c) They go to get weapons so they can get out of town.
QuoteNo excuse though, some movies out there do try and be realistic. Alien was very down to earth in a lot of respects. it is said how "hollywood" sequels get when they have excellent starts. Die Hard springs to mind here. Everyday man in the first film, borderline superhuman in the latest movies.
I didn't say it was an excuse but it happens constantly so no one cares. I don't know what comparison is with Alien. Die Hard is an exception.
Posted by The Cruentus
- May 23, 2017, 09:40:12 AMThere is so many things bad about Requiem that there is no point listing them as you would be there all day 
Can't recall how far into the movie that scene is but if its when it becomes more obvious that there is some sort of infestion or major incident that is spreading, then the smart thing to do would be to leave town....which they could have at any time but when they do finally get round to it, they spend a lot of time trying to get to a helicopter.
No excuse though, some movies out there do try and be realistic. Alien was very down to earth in a lot of respects. it is said how "hollywood" sequels get when they have excellent starts. Die Hard springs to mind here. Everyday man in the first film, borderline superhuman in the latest movies.
Quote- Also, why is, "We need guns," the very first solution proposed when the shit hits the fan? If Dallas had some type of background as a veteran or something this might make sense but I just don't get why his mind goes there straight away as a civilian who's just been released from prison.
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Sounds pretty normal to me because a) something or things are killing people and b) he's a small town Yank.
Can't recall how far into the movie that scene is but if its when it becomes more obvious that there is some sort of infestion or major incident that is spreading, then the smart thing to do would be to leave town....which they could have at any time but when they do finally get round to it, they spend a lot of time trying to get to a helicopter.
Quote- Ricky's injury and the portrayal of the character for the rest of the story is absurd. He seems to get impaled and seems merely dazed for the remainder of the film. "My brother needs a medic." Why isn't he bleeding out and dying and everyone frantically trying to save him?
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Shoulder wounds never hurt in Hollywood.
No excuse though, some movies out there do try and be realistic. Alien was very down to earth in a lot of respects. it is said how "hollywood" sequels get when they have excellent starts. Die Hard springs to mind here. Everyday man in the first film, borderline superhuman in the latest movies.
Posted by SM
- May 15, 2017, 05:26:29 AMInteresting comment about director vs. visual effects artists.
I can't really put my finger on it, but if you just have a visual effect without the story for context it can be pretty soulless. AvP:R feels like that. Even the numerous scenes with no special effects.
I can't really put my finger on it, but if you just have a visual effect without the story for context it can be pretty soulless. AvP:R feels like that. Even the numerous scenes with no special effects.
