Posted by MetalAlien
- Today at 04:49:37 AMI think Mannequin is a classic, watched it on sunday in fact. But that's just me.
Posted by Neila
- Jun 02, 2024, 05:29:38 PMIn order to call a film a classic, it must meet several criteria, although opinions certainly differ as to when a film should or may be called a classic.
For me it is a classic if it has had a lasting impact on, changed or influenced the film world.
and Predator simply doesn't have that. It's a cult film, no question, but it's only that among fans.
Seen globally, it is "just" a very good action thriller, nothing more and nothing less.
But it didn't have a huge influence on the film world as a whole.
Frankenstein, Dracula, Jaws, Star Wars, 2001, The Godfather and also the first Alien. These are style-defining classics because after their release major changes and a jolt went through the film world and these films have left a huge influence to this day.
I love the first Predator but for me it doesn't meet enough criteria to be called a real film classic.
For me it is a classic if it has had a lasting impact on, changed or influenced the film world.
and Predator simply doesn't have that. It's a cult film, no question, but it's only that among fans.
Seen globally, it is "just" a very good action thriller, nothing more and nothing less.
But it didn't have a huge influence on the film world as a whole.
Frankenstein, Dracula, Jaws, Star Wars, 2001, The Godfather and also the first Alien. These are style-defining classics because after their release major changes and a jolt went through the film world and these films have left a huge influence to this day.
I love the first Predator but for me it doesn't meet enough criteria to be called a real film classic.
Posted by xShadowFoxX
- May 30, 2024, 08:10:06 PMQuote from: Master Chief on May 30, 2024, 02:00:34 PMQuote from: Neila on May 24, 2024, 10:11:03 AMI chose Predator 1 because it's just great.It's a classic.
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But I still wouldn't call it a classic. A really good action film from the late 80s.
However, I think that Arnie always seems a little funny the more serious he tries to act, but that's a matter of taste.
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The first is the only one I would consider a classic.
Posted by Master Chief
- May 30, 2024, 02:00:34 PMQuote from: Neila on May 24, 2024, 10:11:03 AMI chose Predator 1 because it's just great.It's a classic.
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But I still wouldn't call it a classic. A really good action film from the late 80s.
However, I think that Arnie always seems a little funny the more serious he tries to act, but that's a matter of taste.
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Posted by xShadowFoxX
- May 25, 2024, 02:02:12 AMI love Prey. I like Predator 2. But nothing beats Predator.
Posted by Neila
- May 24, 2024, 10:11:03 AMI chose Predator 1 because it's just great.
clearly influenced by Aliens but still a great film.
But I still wouldn't call it a classic. A really good action film from the late 80s.
However, I think that Arnie always seems a little funny the more serious he tries to act, but that's a matter of taste.
I actually thought Predator 2 was just as good because it did the only right thing when it came to location. The design of the Pred is also great again and unfortunately it was the last time a Predator looked good.
I also liked Glover.
What I didn't like was the expansion of the culture and a kind of code, but we're already discussing that in another thread.
clearly influenced by Aliens but still a great film.
But I still wouldn't call it a classic. A really good action film from the late 80s.
However, I think that Arnie always seems a little funny the more serious he tries to act, but that's a matter of taste.
I actually thought Predator 2 was just as good because it did the only right thing when it came to location. The design of the Pred is also great again and unfortunately it was the last time a Predator looked good.
I also liked Glover.
What I didn't like was the expansion of the culture and a kind of code, but we're already discussing that in another thread.
Posted by MetalAlien
- May 24, 2024, 02:58:45 AMI love Predator 1 and 2 equally for completely different reasons.
Posted by SiL
- May 03, 2024, 10:49:37 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on May 03, 2024, 06:21:16 PMMy beef is most Pred sequels now they just do the jungle trop and recycle lines from the original. Pred 2 at least went totally opposite in aesthetic, concrete jungle.The Predator is set mostly in the suburbs and Prey is a pretty wide mix of locations.
But the line recycling, ugh.
Posted by E. Shaw
- May 03, 2024, 06:21:16 PMQuote from: Huntsman on Apr 26, 2024, 01:05:27 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 05:50:28 PMPredator 2. I love the gangland vibe, the meat locker/ storage scenes, King Willie, and the lore added including the Xeno Skull!!!It's a damn good sequel. I love how rough and ready the city is. A seedy shithole.
My beef is most Pred sequels now they just do the jungle trop and recycle lines from the original. Pred 2 at least went totally opposite in aesthetic, concrete jungle.
Posted by David
- May 01, 2024, 03:10:01 PMIt is a tough call. Predator2, probably
Posted by Huntsman
- Apr 28, 2024, 01:42:18 AMQuote from: CANNON on Apr 27, 2024, 04:29:57 PMPredator. Predator. Predator. Nothing else comes close. Only movie that captures the true essence of the character while keeping viewers in a state of mystery leaving us wanting to know more. As the movie runs we learn with Dutch and the team how this creature operates, how it hunts - it's patience, how it observes and studies, how there is no wasted movement, how it uses its environment, how it mimics, how it is a trophy hunter and the danger it possesses all while making us as viewers and the characters in the movie wondering when it'll strike again. After prey - I have to add also Predator gets the design so right, it stands alone and jungle hunter will forever be a classic.Agree with all this, especially how it "captures the true essence of the character while keeping viewers in a state of mystery leaving us wanting to know more". It's a classic movie in every way.
No other movie comes close other than P2.
That being said Predator. Predator. Predator.
Posted by CANNON
- Apr 27, 2024, 04:29:57 PMPredator. Predator. Predator. Nothing else comes close. Only movie that captures the true essence of the character while keeping viewers in a state of mystery leaving us wanting to know more. As the movie runs we learn with Dutch and the team how this creature operates, how it hunts - it's patience, how it observes and studies, how there is no wasted movement, how it uses its environment, how it mimics, how it is a trophy hunter and the danger it possesses all while making us as viewers and the characters in the movie wondering when it'll strike again. After prey - I have to add also Predator gets the design so right, it stands alone and jungle hunter will forever be a classic.
No other movie comes close other than P2.
That being said Predator. Predator. Predator.
No other movie comes close other than P2.
That being said Predator. Predator. Predator.
Posted by Huntsman
- Apr 26, 2024, 01:05:27 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 05:50:28 PMPredator 2. I love the gangland vibe, the meat locker/ storage scenes, King Willie, and the lore added including the Xeno Skull!!!It's a damn good sequel. I love how rough and ready the city is. A seedy shithole.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Apr 14, 2024, 10:06:12 AMI'm still suprised The Predator got 3 votes.
Posted by Acid_Reign161
- Apr 14, 2024, 12:51:21 AMThis list really confuses me, there are only 3 movies; Predator, Predator 2, and Prey. 😝
