Quote from: CoalescedChaos on Apr 17, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
I still don't believe they're Engineers, but for arguments sake, I suppose I'll agree. That being said, They're clearly not all dead. There is simply no way that every single last remaining Engineer was on this planet at the time of David's mass genocide.
What if they were? What then? Because I'm pretty sure that is exactly what this movie intends to say to close the book on both the Engineers and Shaw, and everything from the previous film except David. I'm pretty sure this movie's 'rocks fall, everyone dies' take on it is Scott's final word on the subject.
QuoteRidley wanted to see that concept realized for nearly 40 years. He's not going to suddenly drop that narrative for something else.
Ridley says a lot of things. Ridley drops a lot of things. Ridley also said in 2012 that the alien was 'done' and worn out, and he wanted to move on to new stories and new monsters. Ridley in 2017 is now saying the alien is back in force, giving everyone what they want for their money, and that they're going to do stories that lead directly back to the old ones.
Sometimes fans get so obsessed with old quotes or drawings or whatever and assume they must always be gospel. In reality creativity is very fluid, especially in Hollywood. Ridley Scott says a lot of things that strike him as exciting in the moment, he always has, and he does not necessarily fully commit to any one. Ridley Scott is also a very shrewd businessman. After
Prometheus' mixed reception and lacking any clear direction of where to go next he made the calculation that doing this movie and refocusing on the alien and direct prequels would be a winner with audiences, and I'm sure it will be. But it means he has dropped 90% of what he talked about before. And that's okay, that's his prerogative, but that's what's happened here.
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 17, 2017, 02:49:55 PM
Do you have a reason to believe that a civilisation that has perfected space travel would not have at least a few members of their species off the planet at any given time?
What was at least implied in
Prometheus is that any Engineers not on their homeworld had been killed by some great catastrophe likely resulting from their own weapons/experiments - wiped out. This is what is shown on LV-223 and it's what's at least implicitly implied happened with LV-426's Engineer/space jockey and its own deadly cargo on the derelict.
There is always the possibility one still exists out there, of course, in terms of fanfic or if someone else should take over the franchise and be dying for more of the big blue dudes. But for all intents and purposes Ridley Scott, who presently controls the franchise, is tying off the plot thread he is no longer interested in by saying 'yes, they went to the planet, David killed the rest, now the story is about David and the alien, have fun.' This is the reality the films are working in.