Poll: AvP vs AvPR

[The Demon]

Either way he still would have died most likely. The Alien vs. Pred battles in AvPR were very unrealistic in comparison to AvP.

But I'd rather watch the AvP-R battles instead of the AvP predator on alien wrestling matches

The difference to me is that the AvPR battles aren't battles. A battle implies two sides struggling against each other to win. In every AvPR fight it is obvious who will win and there is no attempt to make it interesting at all. AvP may have battles that look staged, but at least there are two opposing sides getting their licks in.

Ok it is like setting up a match with a top UFC fighter and a regular Joe. You know the outcome before the fights even start.

I concider it a battle no if we know whose going to win or not. Just because Wolf has the superhero affect does not mean its a battle. I do agree its cheap and not fair for the Alien fans but I can't complain to much, I loved all the Predator action in the movie and if any of the Alien fans are Predator fans too they should be able to enjoy that perspective of it too.

[DoomRulz]

Either way he still would have died most likely. The Alien vs. Pred battles in AvPR were very unrealistic in comparison to AvP.

But I'd rather watch the AvP-R battles instead of the AvP predator on alien wrestling matches

The difference to me is that the AvPR battles aren't battles. A battle implies two sides struggling against each other to win. In every AvPR fight it is obvious who will win and there is no attempt to make it interesting at all. AvP may have battles that look staged, but at least there are two opposing sides getting their licks in.

Ok it is like setting up a match with a top UFC fighter and a regular Joe. You know the outcome before the fights even start.

I concider it a battle no if we know whose going to win or not. Just because Wolf has the superhero affect does not mean its a battle. I do agree its cheap and not fair for the Alien fans but I can't complain to much, I loved all the Predator action in the movie and if any of the Alien fans are Predator fans too they should be able to enjoy that perspective of it too.

But if you have a preference for either creature, which is more likely than not, then perspective won't matter much. That's the problem.

[The Demon]

Either way he still would have died most likely. The Alien vs. Pred battles in AvPR were very unrealistic in comparison to AvP.

But I'd rather watch the AvP-R battles instead of the AvP predator on alien wrestling matches

The difference to me is that the AvPR battles aren't battles. A battle implies two sides struggling against each other to win. In every AvPR fight it is obvious who will win and there is no attempt to make it interesting at all. AvP may have battles that look staged, but at least there are two opposing sides getting their licks in.

Ok it is like setting up a match with a top UFC fighter and a regular Joe. You know the outcome before the fights even start.

I concider it a battle no if we know whose going to win or not. Just because Wolf has the superhero affect does not mean its a battle. I do agree its cheap and not fair for the Alien fans but I can't complain to much, I loved all the Predator action in the movie and if any of the Alien fans are Predator fans too they should be able to enjoy that perspective of it too.

But if you have a preference for either creature, which is more likely than not, then perspective won't matter much. That's the problem.

What do you mean? I'm just saying it was a battle no matter if the Wolf cheaply kicked ass or not.

I think the AvPr battle are the opposite to AvP's battles. Celtic could of just as easily shank Grid in the face and finished it there when it was on top of him just like the Aliens could have tore Wolf up in AvPr.

[DoomRulz]

I mean if you prefer the Alien over the Predator, then it ceases to just be "I WANT THE ALIEN TO WIN!!!!" If the Alien is the Predator's bitch for no reason, you'll be angry for that reason alone, not b/c the Alien lost.

[Flaming Firefox]

Either way he still would have died most likely. The Alien vs. Pred battles in AvPR were very unrealistic in comparison to AvP.

But I'd rather watch the AvP-R battles instead of the AvP predator on alien wrestling matches

The difference to me is that the AvPR battles aren't battles. A battle implies two sides struggling against each other to win. In every AvPR fight it is obvious who will win and there is no attempt to make it interesting at all. AvP may have battles that look staged, but at least there are two opposing sides getting their licks in.

Ok it is like setting up a match with a top UFC fighter and a regular Joe. You know the outcome before the fights even start.

I concider it a battle no if we know whose going to win or not. Just because Wolf has the superhero affect does not mean its a battle. I do agree its cheap and not fair for the Alien fans but I can't complain to much, I loved all the Predator action in the movie and if any of the Alien fans are Predator fans too they should be able to enjoy that perspective of it too.

I have a lot of favorite sports stars. That doesn't mean I would like to watch a contest where the other guy took a dive so they could win. That is basically what AvPR did. It doesn't matter how good you are when your opponent isn't fighting to their potential.

Your only as good as your competition. The better the competition the more you have to elevate to overcome the competition. Everyone wins that way. I'm a fan of both Aliens and Preds, but I don't like the way Wolf won his fights as opposed to not liking that he won.

[The Demon]

Either way he still would have died most likely. The Alien vs. Pred battles in AvPR were very unrealistic in comparison to AvP.

But I'd rather watch the AvP-R battles instead of the AvP predator on alien wrestling matches

The difference to me is that the AvPR battles aren't battles. A battle implies two sides struggling against each other to win. In every AvPR fight it is obvious who will win and there is no attempt to make it interesting at all. AvP may have battles that look staged, but at least there are two opposing sides getting their licks in.

Ok it is like setting up a match with a top UFC fighter and a regular Joe. You know the outcome before the fights even start.

I concider it a battle no if we know whose going to win or not. Just because Wolf has the superhero affect does not mean its a battle. I do agree its cheap and not fair for the Alien fans but I can't complain to much, I loved all the Predator action in the movie and if any of the Alien fans are Predator fans too they should be able to enjoy that perspective of it too.

I have a lot of favorite sports stars. That doesn't mean I would like to watch a contest where the other guy took a dive so they could win. That is basically what AvPR did. It doesn't matter how good you are when your opponent isn't fighting to their potential.

Your only as good as your competition. The better the competition the more you have to elevate to overcome the competition. Everyone wins that way. I'm a fan of both Aliens and Preds, but I don't like the way Wolf won his fights as opposed to not liking that he won.

I agree, also thats why I mentioned the Wolf's superman affect.

[Technine]

i think the opening sceen in avpr or
just avpr in general was rushed
like the plane crash was easily 5 minutes but
they crammed it into 30 seconds

but i still enjoyed it

[KARHAN]

i think overall...AVP is better IMO:

AVP pro's:
+ Athmospehere was suberb i think the whole pyramid was a very good setting.
+ The actors were better not superb but better then AVP-R
+ The aliens were portrayed better
+ Better storyline


AVP Con's:
- the PReds were ridiculous
- The team-up sucked
- The fights were meh
- aliens popped out of the chests to fast
- PG-13



AVP-R Pro's:
+ The Predator looked almost prefect , the head sucked
+ there were more fights
+ Better music score
+ Pred-world scene was cool as hell 
+ the fights were more exiting to watch when you cranked the brigthness up


AVP-R con's:
- The actors
- The predalien
- The aliens were stupid flailing f**ks
- The darkness was the worst problem IMO
- The reproduce system
- The ending sucked ass
- The CGI blood was very poorly done
- the CGI in general was crappy

AVP-R had more negatives but more postives and AVP had less negatives and less postitives so that makes AVP less crappy IMO
               

[The Demon]

i think overall...AVP is better IMO:

AVP pro's:
+ Athmospehere was suberb i think the whole pyramid was a very good setting.
+ The actors were better not superb but better then AVP-R
+ The aliens were portrayed better
+ Better storyline


AVP Con's:
- the PReds were ridiculous
- The team-up sucked
- The fights were meh
- aliens popped out of the chests to fast
- PG-13



AVP-R Pro's:
+ The Predator looked almost prefect , the head sucked
+ there were more fights
+ Better music score
+ Pred-world scene was cool as hell 
+ the fights were more exiting to watch when you cranked the brigthness up


AVP-R con's:
- The actors
- The predalien
- The aliens were stupid flailing f**ks
- The darkness was the worst problem IMO
- The reproduce system
- The ending sucked ass
- The CGI blood was very poorly done
- the CGI in general was crappy

AVP-R had more negatives but more postives and AVP had less negatives and less postitives so that makes AVP less crappy IMO
               

For AvPr how could you say the Predator's head sucked? I thought it was the best head design since the originals. I think it was posed wrong in a few shots and one last thing is in his close up shot of him roaring, theres too much damn darkness you could barely see his face. There's only two scenes that bother me with the darkness wether the brightness is up or not.

[Ratchetcomand]

I hated the Wolf face because it was so ulgy and i hated the color for it.

[Flaming Firefox]

I hated the Wolf face because it was so ulgy and i hated the color for it.

Wolf unmasked only looks good in a couple of shots. Namely where he is in the downed Pred ship. It would have been better if he left his mask on the whole time.

[DoomRulz]

For AvPr how could you say the Predator's head sucked? I thought it was the best head design since the originals. I think it was posed wrong in a few shots and one last thing is in his close up shot of him roaring, theres too much damn darkness you could barely see his face. There's only two scenes that bother me with the darkness wether the brightness is up or not.

The mouth was too big like in AvP and the extra mandibles were stupid-looking and out of place.

[The Demon]

For AvPr how could you say the Predator's head sucked? I thought it was the best head design since the originals. I think it was posed wrong in a few shots and one last thing is in his close up shot of him roaring, theres too much damn darkness you could barely see his face. There's only two scenes that bother me with the darkness wether the brightness is up or not.

The mouth was too big like in AvP and the extra mandibles were stupid-looking and out of place.

Its not the mouth its the mandibles. They hung to the side instead of crossed like all the Predator's mandibles are like including the AvP Predators which is sad to say.

[Predboy]

Goods for AvP....

- Good pacing
- Good fight scenes (refering to Celtic and Grid)
- Good enough acting for me
- Good enough characters IMO
- Aliens were portrayed pretty good


The bad....

- Movie was short
- PG 13
- Predators looked like ass
- Predators fought like ass
- Predators were ass
- Not enough gore


The goods for AvPR....

- Predator looked better, closer to the originals
..............thats all I can think of

The bads....

- Predator mandibles weren't right
- Predator sound effects were shit, I was hoping for the original sounds back
- Aliens had the worst design so far
- Aliens didn't put up a good fight
- Battle scenes sucked
- Movie was too dark
- Predalien looked like ass
- Acting, as well as the acters were ass
- Movie was too short
- Homages to the originals were getting on my nerves
- Dialogue sucked
............Hell, pretty much everything in this movie sucked except for the predator design and the homeworld part, which wasn't much of a big deal anyway.

[gameoverman]

This poll is like comparing apples and oranges.  AVPR isn't even a movie.  It's some poorly lit, poorly shot amateur movie.  Like pornography but even worse.