Cosmic horror in the Alien franchise

Started by Thatguy2068, Nov 16, 2023, 05:37:56 AM

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Cosmic horror in the Alien franchise (Read 6,849 times)

Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 18, 2023, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 18, 2023, 09:45:00 AMIs it a good idea to add more cosmic creatures that are separated from the xenomorph and the space jockeys within the universe

No. Space Jockeys can have endless variety as a race of biomechanoids without adding in unrelated species that would probably just end up as tentacle monsters or interdimensional Ferengi anyway.

Yep. That's one of the reasons why I have an easier time than most taking the Engineers (both Prometheus' and Covenant's differing renditions of them) and Alien's Space Jockey all in one lump sum together without harping on the (very significant) differences – they're an ancient cosmic race that is literally capable of creating life and steering evolution, and they use biotech to radically alter themselves physically.

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Plus, the Space Jockey is probably David anyways. ;)
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Local Trouble

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Is David breedable?
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Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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No, hence him resorting to such extreme measures in order to create life in Covenant.

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But once he turns himself into a biomechanical being infused with a chair that is capable of giving birth to a child of his own, that answer should change to "Yes..." ;)
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Thatguy2068

Thatguy2068

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Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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Maybe
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How about space jockeys creations, they don't have to be other living things maybe like structures or accomplishments they made like making a color we were unable to see at first but The Space Jockeys Made it visible for us

oduodu

oduodu

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Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 18, 2023, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Nov 18, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 18, 2023, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Nov 18, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 18, 2023, 01:44:00 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Nov 18, 2023, 01:31:45 AM"I don't believe that the engineer should be reckoned out of existence but I can see that engineers and space jockey can live in the same universe as separate entities."

yes this

with david alluding to this added in to what covenant is would have redeemed covenant for me cuz everybody happy.
When did David alluding to this? I haven't seen covenant in a while.

he didnt. i am saying i wanted that in covenant.
Oh ok, yeah that would be very cool if they did that.
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Is it a good idea to add more cosmic creatures that are separated from the xenomorph and the space jockeys within the universe, or is that going to far?

imho yes. it doesn't have to be for others coz thats their opinion and i respect it. doesn't change the fact that the space jockey is a dead alien creature of non human origin that that died at the hands of an extremely dangerous lifeform which purpose it seems is solely to die breed die breed etc while wiping out all humanoid lifeforms in its path.

whether its a good idea thematically or story telling wise is up to other s. afaic its an idea worthy of exploration that people have wanted to see hence demand and supply.

you dont have to ask for permission to like an idea. you should just be able to eloborate on why it is so for you.

Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 18, 2023, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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No, hence him resorting to such extreme measures in order to create life in Covenant.

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But once he turns himself into a biomechanical being infused with a chair that is capable of giving birth to a child of his own, that answer should change to "Yes..." ;)
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Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 19, 2023, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 18, 2023, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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No, hence him resorting to such extreme measures in order to create life in Covenant.

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But once he turns himself into a biomechanical being infused with a chair that is capable of giving birth to a child of his own, that answer should change to "Yes..." ;)
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https://i.ibb.co/N2fFccM/Raised-by-Wolves-Mother-pregnant-belly.jpg


Thatguy2068

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 19, 2023, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 18, 2023, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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No, hence him resorting to such extreme measures in order to create life in Covenant.

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But once he turns himself into a biomechanical being infused with a chair that is capable of giving birth to a child of his own, that answer should change to "Yes..." ;)
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https://i.ibb.co/N2fFccM/Raised-by-Wolves-Mother-pregnant-belly.jpg
Full stop remind me of Eden concept art within Prometheus Fire and Stone

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Nightmare Asylum

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Haven't read Fire and Stone, but definitely big Species vibes in that art; it's pretty much just Sil.

Thatguy2068

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 19, 2023, 05:01:28 PMHaven't read Fire and Stone, but definitely big Species vibes in that art; it's pretty much just Sil.
Yeah I do definitely see the similarities, they are practically almost the same thing it's just that Eden has much shorter hair

BlueMarsalis79

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 19, 2023, 05:01:28 PMHaven't read Fire and Stone, but definitely big Species vibes in that art; it's pretty much just Sil.

Mixed with an Asari.

Thatguy2068

There this comic on Tumblr called Alien Fall of Rebel Angels by spaghetti bastard, it has a lot of elements of cosmic horror within it. Link is above the picture
https://spaghettibastard.tumblr.com/post/616475481377751040


[cancerblack]

Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 20, 2023, 10:56:39 AMThere this comic on Tumblr called Alien Fall of Rebel Angels by spaghetti bastard, it has a lot of elements of cosmic horror within it. Link is above the picture
https://spaghettibastard.tumblr.com/post/616475481377751040
https://64.media.tumblr.com/faf4a004ef4aafe2607397be934c2dae/53e7b846cfa7a875-23/s1280x1920/dfdfe6fbfe49ff997c661a02f82e4221be9a7cce.jpg

Spaghetti is the MVP

Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 18, 2023, 08:31:51 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 18, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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Is David breedable?
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Maybe
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How about space jockeys creations, they don't have to be other living things maybe like structures or accomplishments they made like making a color we were unable to see at first but The Space Jockeys Made it visible for us

Why do the creations and jockeys need to be separate? The blurred lines of the original pilot are why it's so fascinating.

Thatguy2068

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 20, 2023, 11:22:12 AMWhy do the creations and jockeys need to be separate? The blurred lines of the original pilot are why it's so fascinating.
I'm not saying they need to be separated.

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Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Nov 20, 2023, 10:56:39 AMThere this comic on Tumblr called Alien Fall of Rebel Angels by spaghetti bastard, it has a lot of elements of cosmic horror within it. Link is above the picture
https://spaghettibastard.tumblr.com/post/616475481377751040
https://64.media.tumblr.com/faf4a004ef4aafe2607397be934c2dae/53e7b846cfa7a875-23/s1280x1920/dfdfe6fbfe49ff997c661a02f82e4221be9a7cce.jpg

We worked on an AvP fan comic yonks ago. Never got finished but some of the drawings he did were awesome.

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