Should new xenomorph design and variance have biomechanical look or sometimes.

Started by Thatguy2068, Oct 09, 2023, 10:47:27 PM

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Should new xenomorph design and variance have biomechanical look or sometimes. (Read 3,055 times)

Thatguy2068

The Xenomorph design is the The most iconic sci-fi creature ever, due to how unique it is with the Biomechanical look to it. However I did saw complaints that in the later entries that the xeno design should've deteriorated, I think the reason why is because they sort of stray away from the biomechanical which is understandable I  like all Xenomorph and other variance designs, however I do agree that the best ones were the ones with the biomechanical look.

Immortan Jonesy

Everything is better with biomechanical aesthetics


Stitch

It may be a language barrier, but I'm not sure what you mean. Could you maybe repeat the question in different words, please?

I think you're asking whether the alien should always look biomechanical, or if it should be different sometimes? Just want to check before answering.

Acid_Reign161

For me depends entirely on the context of a movie. Was your ovomorph found on a Jockey/Derelict ship with the ruptured ribcage corpse of a jockey/engineer nearby? I expect biomechanical.

Was your xeno 3rd-gen offspring having only used human or (in example) quadruped mammal hosts with zero biomechanical traits? I expect it to get more fleshy with each generation (but only as far as say, the runner - anything less and you fall into David's protomorph territory and it's not quite a xeno anymore (in my opinion).

Thatguy2068

Quote from: Stitch on Oct 10, 2023, 09:56:00 AMIt may be a language barrier, but I'm not sure what you mean. Could you maybe repeat the question in different words, please?

I think you're asking whether the alien should always look biomechanical
Yes, I would like to see them look biomechanical

Still Collating...

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 09, 2023, 10:53:05 PMEverything is better with biomechanical aesthetics

https://i.ibb.co/Rztttv9/FB-IMG-1696882507364.jpg

Couldn't agree more. Any and all Aliens should be biomechanical. That's a key aesthetic characteristic of theirs. Removing that leans more into generic mutated flesh monster we've seen a million times. You can change the shape a bit, the proportions, there's a lot of possibilities, but that look has to stay for me.
That's why I didn't like the look of the Deacon (who knows what it would've looked like fully grown, though going by the Neomorphs, I see what Ridley likes) and the David Alien.

Thatguy2068

Quote from: Still Collating... on Oct 10, 2023, 07:38:53 PMThat's why I didn't like the look of the Deacon (who knows what it would've looked like fully grown, though going by the Neomorphs, I see what Ridley likes) and the David Alien.
So you saying deacon would be better if he had a biomechanical... I got your back,

-start drawing-

Stitch

I think an interesting side question to this would be how far does a design have to stray from the original HR Giger style of biomechanics before it is no longer recognisable as a capital-A Alien?

Thatguy2068

Thatguy2068

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So the deacons would have look better if it were look like this? Also there's a trilobite redesign (baby [right bottoms], adult [in the Rightist middle])

Thatguy2068

Would you guys like the alien runner as he was in the final product



Or would you rather see him more biomechanical like this fan redesign by Titanosaur


SiL

The Runner is based on a design by Giger himself and the detailing is pretty accurate to his paintings.

Acid_Reign161

Acid_Reign161

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Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 20, 2023, 08:53:47 AMWould you guys like the alien runner as he was in the final product

https://media.comicbook.com/2021/03/aliens-fireteam-runners-1259900.jpeg?auto=webp&width=1200&height=675&crop=1200:675,smart
Or would you rather see him more biomechanical like this fan redesign by Titanosaur

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/47870550-a907-41a3-8be6-570d0663d56a/d25a36u-e823ac49-69e4-44e7-b45f-495adcf93221.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ3ODcwNTUwLWE5MDctNDFhMy04YmU2LTU3MGQwNjYzZDU2YVwvZDI1YTM2dS1lODIzYWM0OS02OWU0LTQ0ZTctYjQ1Zi00OTVhZGNmOTMyMjEuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.FhoPTwtEFMe_We0Ku67gJuX9nB6bqI62TaybjCHMcP4

I prefer the runner exactly as we saw it in 'Alien 3' - as it makes more sense. Interestingly, as I haven't done any artwork for years and wanted to get back into it, I've been rough planning /doodling a 'Warrior Runner' based on the Level Guardian from the Alien 3 SEGA Genesis/Megadrive/Amiga game (as seen in my avatar) - basically a warrior but with the aesthetics of the runner - the 'next stage' of the runner, had it survived longer, if you will. 😊

Still Collating...

Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 20, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 20, 2023, 08:53:47 AMWould you guys like the alien runner as he was in the final product

https://media.comicbook.com/2021/03/aliens-fireteam-runners-1259900.jpeg?auto=webp&width=1200&height=675&crop=1200:675,smart
Or would you rather see him more biomechanical like this fan redesign by Titanosaur

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/47870550-a907-41a3-8be6-570d0663d56a/d25a36u-e823ac49-69e4-44e7-b45f-495adcf93221.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ3ODcwNTUwLWE5MDctNDFhMy04YmU2LTU3MGQwNjYzZDU2YVwvZDI1YTM2dS1lODIzYWM0OS02OWU0LTQ0ZTctYjQ1Zi00OTVhZGNmOTMyMjEuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.FhoPTwtEFMe_We0Ku67gJuX9nB6bqI62TaybjCHMcP4

I prefer the runner exactly as we saw it in 'Alien 3' - as it makes more sense. Interestingly, as I haven't done any artwork for years and wanted to get back into it, I've been rough planning /doodling a 'Warrior Runner' based on the Level Guardian from the Alien 3 SEGA Genesis/Megadrive/Amiga game (as seen in my avatar) - basically a warrior but with the aesthetics of the runner - the 'next stage' of the runner, had it survived longer, if you will. 😊

Would like to see that!

Acid_Reign161

Quote from: Still Collating... on Oct 21, 2023, 07:29:35 PM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 20, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 20, 2023, 08:53:47 AMWould you guys like the alien runner as he was in the final product

https://media.comicbook.com/2021/03/aliens-fireteam-runners-1259900.jpeg?auto=webp&width=1200&height=675&crop=1200:675,smart
Or would you rather see him more biomechanical like this fan redesign by Titanosaur

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/47870550-a907-41a3-8be6-570d0663d56a/d25a36u-e823ac49-69e4-44e7-b45f-495adcf93221.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ3ODcwNTUwLWE5MDctNDFhMy04YmU2LTU3MGQwNjYzZDU2YVwvZDI1YTM2dS1lODIzYWM0OS02OWU0LTQ0ZTctYjQ1Zi00OTVhZGNmOTMyMjEuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.FhoPTwtEFMe_We0Ku67gJuX9nB6bqI62TaybjCHMcP4

I prefer the runner exactly as we saw it in 'Alien 3' - as it makes more sense. Interestingly, as I haven't done any artwork for years and wanted to get back into it, I've been rough planning /doodling a 'Warrior Runner' based on the Level Guardian from the Alien 3 SEGA Genesis/Megadrive/Amiga game (as seen in my avatar) - basically a warrior but with the aesthetics of the runner - the 'next stage' of the runner, had it survived longer, if you will. 😊

Would like to see that!

I'll be sure to share when it's done! 😃 (also working on a concept for a'what if' animated companion to 'Operation: Aliens' called 'Taskforce: Predator' featuring the kids action figure versions of characters like Harrigan etc. 😊

Thatguy2068

Hey does the Neomorph need to have biomechanical look to be special or is it perfect as it is in the final product?

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