Scott: We are going to make another Alien movie

Started by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯, Dec 04, 2017, 05:54:38 PM

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Scott: We are going to make another Alien movie (Read 248,138 times)

SM

SM

#435
Adjusted for inflation, Alien 3 and Resurrection would've both been north of $100m.


QuoteNow that Disney is in control this franchise is going to get watered down and commercialized.

When were they not commercialised?

Rakkul

Rakkul

#436
Only way fans will find themselves begging for the quality of Prometheus & Covenant is if next movie turns out to be horrible, which looking at what Disney did with Last Jedi, is possible. Fans already begging for Lucas to come back. Time changes all, bad movie turns into ok movie, ok movie turns into good movie. It happens all the time and people look back and say it was not bad movie.

AVP-CAPCOM

Quote from: Whos_Nick on Dec 24, 2017, 07:22:45 AM
Since when has any Alien film had a 100 million + budget prior to Prometheus and Covenant lol

Well there's a reason that the MARVEL extended Universe is just that. It's an extended Universe which increased budgets to $150 Million to $250 Million with Box Office returns of Billions.

Fox has dragged its heels for decades with Executive Producer David Giler saying "oh we have these expansive, imaginative scripts that are awesome" and then proceeds to piss on them refusing to show the money, like some deadbeat Father ignoring his Son's inputs.


Audiences are not tired of ALIENS or Xenomorphs. They are tired of being cooped up in confined spaces for 8 movies. The ALIEN is no longer scary it is boring because of the same movie being made over and over. Familiarity breeds contempt.
The reason ALIENS was a box office smash was because we saw a bigger and greater threat (ALIEN- QUEEN). Imagine that on a futuristic Earth.

Let's have some scale, like ALIENS EARTH WAR or BOOK TWO. If David Giler is not willing to do the "20 powerloaders vs 20 ALIEN Queens" lets hand it to someone who DOES.

reecebomb

reecebomb

#438
Quote from: Gash on Dec 24, 2017, 05:40:06 AM
Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 24, 2017, 03:34:06 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 24, 2017, 03:29:14 AM
That and a lot of people like it, judging by audience scores, except for the diehards.

I can understand why people like it, the landscape for high budget semi serious sci-fi couldn't be more barren these days. Now we had BR2049 and failed and the landscape will remain vacant for some time.

Eh?

Reading my post again, it is a bit off and missing the word it. "Now we had BR2049 and it failed".
What I meant was after BR2049 failed at the box office, the future is not too bright for any high budget semi serious sci-fi, all we probably gonna get is more of the kids stuff.


Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Dec 24, 2017, 07:22:45 AM
Since when has any Alien film had a 100 million + budget prior to Prometheus and Covenant lol

Audiences are not tired of ALIENS or Xenomorphs. They are tired of being cooped up in confined spaces for 8 movies. The ALIEN is no longer scary it is boring because of the same movie being made over and over. Familiarity breeds contempt.
The reason ALIENS was a box office smash was because we saw a bigger and greater threat (ALIEN- QUEEN). Imagine that on a futuristic Earth.

Let's have some scale, like ALIENS EARTH WAR or BOOK TWO. If David Giler is not willing to do the "20 powerloaders vs 20 ALIEN Queens" lets hand it to someone who DOES.

Not sure if serious.


Quote from: Rakkul on Dec 24, 2017, 07:59:04 AM
Only way fans will find themselves begging for the quality of Prometheus & Covenant is if next movie turns out to be horrible, which looking at what Disney did with Last Jedi, is possible. Fans already begging for Lucas to come back. Time changes all, bad movie turns into ok movie, ok movie turns into good movie. It happens all the time and people look back and say it was not bad movie.

This could be true but i don't think it's even  possible  to do much worse than Covenant, It has all the similar issues that plague the blockbusters these days and then some. It could as we'll been made by Disney. I think we've already reached the lowest points and hopefully the next ones will try harder.

Nukiemorph

Nukiemorph

#439
SON OF A BITCH.

I want to know who the god damn space jockey is.
I want to see what becomes of David and the Covenant colonists.
I want to see where this f**king story was going.

These mysteries were fine before Covenant, but Covenant brought us too close to answers to just leave these questions up in the air.

I hope Scott will at least be open in interviews with what his plans were.  (And I don't care to hear any disrespectful bullshit about how he never had any plans/is senile/is the next George Lucas.)

reecebomb

Quote from: necrotard on Dec 24, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
necrotard Posted about a minute ago
SON OF A BITCH.

I want to know who the god damn space jockey is.
I want to see what becomes of David and the Covenant colonists.
I want to see where this f**king story was going.

These mysteries were fine before Covenant, but Covenant brought us too close to answers to just leave these questions up in the air.

I hope Scott will at least be open in interviews with what his plans were.  (And I don't care to hear any disrespectful bullshit about how he never had any plans/is senile/is the next George Lucas.)

But it does seem there never was a solid plan with the prequels. If there was, it's obvious that Covenant took a detour by killing off Shaw, shoehorning xenomorphs and perhaps even making David the creator of Aliens. I personally don't want the space jockey in Alien to be related to the prequels in any way, but if they do that, make the whole thing seem like a reboot rather than a prequel. Then the classics are intact.

Gash

Gash

#441
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 06:33:58 AM

Here's what we need.

Expanded ALIENS universe akin to Dark Horse comics based on Blomkamp's concept art, scale and tone. Skip the "Xenomorph Jurassic World raptor squad", or Ripley's biomechanical suit, daft idea.

Make an AVP3 set in the future. Make it dark, violent, using weapon's from ALIENS and updated Minigun from Predator.

Profit.

We need that?



Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 08:21:27 AM

The reason ALIENS was a box office smash was because we saw a bigger and greater threat (ALIEN- QUEEN). Imagine that on a futuristic Earth.

Let's have some scale, like ALIENS EARTH WAR or BOOK TWO. If David Giler is not willing to do the "20 powerloaders vs 20 ALIEN Queens" lets hand it to someone who DOES.

Oh gawd!

reecebomb

reecebomb

#442
Quote from: Gash on Dec 24, 2017, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 06:33:58 AM

Here's what we need.

Expanded ALIENS universe akin to Dark Horse comics based on Blomkamp's concept art, scale and tone. Skip the "Xenomorph Jurassic World raptor squad", or Ripley's biomechanical suit, daft idea.

Make an AVP3 set in the future. Make it dark, violent, using weapon's from ALIENS and updated Minigun from Predator.

Profit.

We need that?



Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 08:21:27 AM

The reason ALIENS was a box office smash was because we saw a bigger and greater threat (ALIEN- QUEEN). Imagine that on a futuristic Earth.

Let's have some scale, like ALIENS EARTH WAR or BOOK TWO. If David Giler is not willing to do the "20 powerloaders vs 20 ALIEN Queens" lets hand it to someone who DOES.

Oh gawd!

This is a trap most likely. But i'd be down with proper bleak AvP film with Aliens weaponry, basically a movie version of AvP 1999, Blomkamp?

Kurai

Quote
I think you need to have an evolution on this famous beast because he's the best monster ever, really.

Do you think this could be Disney stepping in? It's just such a departure from his previous comments.

Nukiemorph

Nukiemorph

#444
He used to sound so sure he was making another movie.  Now all of the sudden the sounds frustrated and powerless.


Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 24, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Quote from: necrotard on Dec 24, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
necrotard Posted about a minute ago
SON OF A BITCH.

I want to know who the god damn space jockey is.
I want to see what becomes of David and the Covenant colonists.
I want to see where this f**king story was going.

These mysteries were fine before Covenant, but Covenant brought us too close to answers to just leave these questions up in the air.

I hope Scott will at least be open in interviews with what his plans were.  (And I don't care to hear any disrespectful bullshit about how he never had any plans/is senile/is the next George Lucas.)

But it does seem there never was a solid plan with the prequels. If there was, it's obvious that Covenant took a detour by killing off Shaw, shoehorning xenomorphs and perhaps even making David the creator of Aliens. I personally don't want the space jockey in Alien to be related to the prequels in any way, but if they do that, make the whole thing seem like a reboot rather than a prequel. Then the classics are intact.

How do you know he didn't always intent to kill Shaw and have David wipe out the engineers?  Isn't adding the aliens the only change that we know about for sure?  I keep getting the impression that fans expected Prometheus 2 to be about David and Shaw having tea with the engineers and discussing the origins of humanity.  With a dark horror/sci-fi franchise like this, I wouldn't be surprised if killing Shaw was always part of the plan.

Either way, Ridley stated a log time ago that this was supposed to lead into Alien and that he was going to explain the space jockey.  He clearly plans to answer the questions that I have.  I don't care if some details change along the way.

reecebomb

Quote from: necrotard on Dec 24, 2017, 10:16:51 AM
He used to sound so sure he was making another movie.  Now all of the sudden the sounds frustrated and powerless.


Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 24, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Quote from: necrotard on Dec 24, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
necrotard Posted about a minute ago
SON OF A BITCH.

I want to know who the god damn space jockey is.
I want to see what becomes of David and the Covenant colonists.
I want to see where this f**king story was going.

These mysteries were fine before Covenant, but Covenant brought us too close to answers to just leave these questions up in the air.

I hope Scott will at least be open in interviews with what his plans were.  (And I don't care to hear any disrespectful bullshit about how he never had any plans/is senile/is the next George Lucas.)

But it does seem there never was a solid plan with the prequels. If there was, it's obvious that Covenant took a detour by killing off Shaw, shoehorning xenomorphs and perhaps even making David the creator of Aliens. I personally don't want the space jockey in Alien to be related to the prequels in any way, but if they do that, make the whole thing seem like a reboot rather than a prequel. Then the classics are intact.

How do you know he didn't always intent to kill Shaw and have David wipe out the engineers?  Isn't adding the aliens the only change that we know about for sure?  I keep getting the impression that fans expected Prometheus 2 to be about David and Shaw having tea with the engineers and discussing the origins of humanity.  With a dark horror/sci-fi franchise like this, I wouldn't be surprised if killing Shaw was always part of the plan.

Either way, Ridley stated a log time ago that this was supposed to lead into Alien and that he was going to explain the space jockey.  He clearly plans to answer the questions that I have.  I don't care if some details change along the way.

Don't know for sure, just a gut feeling though I too wouldn't be that surprised. The way how the death of Shaw was handled and how Covenant felt very disjointed. Early rumors about Prometheus sequel all seemed to indicate that the story of Shaw and David would continue deeper in the rabbit hole. Instead we got Shaw and David drinking tea and studying paper treasuremaps in Alien spaceship like it was boring 9-5 dayjob  in a completely pointless short.

Paranoid Android

Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 24, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
But it does seem there never was a solid plan with the prequels.
There never was a plan. So much so, that the films weren't even supposed to be prequels at one point:

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-18298709/ridley-scott-says-prometheus-is-not-a-prequel-to-alien

Scott can't plan out the next sentence that comes out of his mouth, let alone a film trilogy. It's mind boggling to me that people still take him seriously.

"Prometheus a prequel" - "Prometheus not a prequel" - "The beast is cooked" - "It's all about this guy here *looks at an alien poster*" - "The beast has almost run out" - "He's the best monster ever, really"...

::)

Scorpio

Of course there's a plan but plans change all the time especially with big productions like this.

AVP-CAPCOM

Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 24, 2017, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: Gash on Dec 24, 2017, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 06:33:58 AM

Here's what we need.

Expanded ALIENS universe akin to Dark Horse comics based on Blomkamp's concept art, scale and tone. Skip the "Xenomorph Jurassic World raptor squad", or Ripley's biomechanical suit, daft idea.

Make an AVP3 set in the future. Make it dark, violent, using weapon's from ALIENS and updated Minigun from Predator.

Profit.

We need that?



Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 24, 2017, 08:21:27 AM

The reason ALIENS was a box office smash was because we saw a bigger and greater threat (ALIEN- QUEEN). Imagine that on a futuristic Earth.

Let's have some scale, like ALIENS EARTH WAR or BOOK TWO. If David Giler is not willing to do the "20 powerloaders vs 20 ALIEN Queens" lets hand it to someone who DOES.

Oh gawd!

This is a trap most likely. But i'd be down with proper bleak AvP film with Aliens weaponry, basically a movie version of AvP 1999, Blomkamp?

No not a trap.

Yes I am biased towards the action orientated ALIENS, as long as the script and cast are sound and the production values balanced and realistic looking.

The PC Games AVP 1999 and AVP2 (2002) were popular because they were faithful to each series to a T.

I'm also geared towards a single ALIEN creating tension (ALIEN and ALIEN 3) but my issue with all films after ALIENS is they are anything but. ALIEN 3 scared me moreso because it was a graphic blood bath than suspenceful.


ChrisPachi

Quote from: necrotard on Dec 24, 2017, 09:34:22 AMSON OF A BITCH.

It makes no sense for David to breed more aliens from the colonists and then call it a day. He is not going to just potter along to Origae-6 to be an alien king in recluse: he is going to go after the engineers. Given 20 years of wiggle room and the harshness of the atmosphere on LV-426, it is not entirely inconceivable that the Space Jockey is just one of the many victims of the inevitable conflict between the creator aliens and the creator hating robot.

Time is getting short, but the story is still alive.

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