Reproduction Method Official

Started by SuicideDoors, Oct 26, 2007, 08:01:45 AM

Do you like the new addition to the lifecycle?

Love it!
80 (21.6%)
Pretty Cool
135 (36.5%)
I expected more
31 (8.4%)
Hate it
40 (10.8%)
To hell with the makers of AvP: R
30 (8.1%)
Like some aspects of it, but think it contradicts too much.
54 (14.6%)

Total Members Voted: 324

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Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#1785
Quote from: ballzanya on Oct 29, 2007, 09:10:25 AM
Im not being a "dickhead", making something up.

Nope, that would be the Alien 3 crew.  They pulled an egg out of nowhere because it was the easy option.  Why spend any effort establishing a plausible plot point when you can just gloss over it?  :)

Predalienslayer

What's with the flaming? He's just saying his opinion, just like the rest of us.

I sort of agree with the folks who think that the aliens should have a stealth element in them, like the alien in Alien. That was blatantly taken away in AvP1. A damn shame, too.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1787
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 29, 2007, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: ballzanya on Oct 29, 2007, 09:10:25 AM
Im not being a "dickhead", making something up.

Nope, that would be the Alien 3 crew.  They pulled an egg out of nowhere because it was the easy option.  Why spend any effort establishing a plausible plot point when you can just gloss over it?  :)

Apparently so. After all these years, there's not one reasonable explanation for how the egg got there.

SM

SM

#1788
Quotewhat im correct, or making shit up? lol.

The latter.

Master

Master

#1789
We can asume that queen might have taken one of her eggs and carried it in her secondary hands. We can also assuem that she layed egg without her egg sack ( so called emergency egg) on board of Sulaco. She might have do that cause she was all alone and knew that she might not win the final battle.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1790
Quote from: SM on Oct 29, 2007, 09:22:31 AM
Quotewhat im correct, or making shit up? lol.

The latter.


wtf? How can I be making stuff up if im not lying? To say i made it up, you'd have to present the screen capture of the movie aliens, that shows the egg in the queens hand.. oh wait a minute there isn't one. Therefore i didn't make shit up.

Master

Master

#1791
There was not one because Cameron did not thought that it will be needed in next film.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1792
Quote from: Master on Oct 29, 2007, 09:27:35 AM
We can asume that queen might have taken one of her eggs and carried it in her secondary hands. We can also assuem that she layed egg without her egg sack ( so called emergency egg) on board of Sulaco. She might have do that cause she was all alone and knew that she might not win the final battle.

the problem with that is, her little secondary arms are seen as well. When she exits the elevator, before bishop picks them up and they think they are going to die, you can see the queen pretty much in its entirety, it also runs at them before ripley gets in the elevator and blasts it with the flamethrower. It every instance, we see no chance to reasonably allow for the possibility that it somehow had an egg with it.

The laying eggs without a sac seems ridiculous. Why grow one then?

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1793
Quote from: Master on Oct 29, 2007, 09:31:28 AM
There was not one because Cameron did not thought that it will be needed in next film.

so therefore you can't try to retrofit it to the plot of that film. If something visibly negates the premise argued for or contradicts it in some way it can't be argued.
There is no chance the queen carried an egg from the nest as she escaped as she is seen not too long after that and all her limbs are shown and there is no egg. Like someone said, she'd have to carry it on her back and then not damage it by all the running around and getting shot by a flamethrower. lol.

Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#1794
^Not only that, but she is certainly not carrying one once on board the Sulaco, and the location we see the egg in at the beginning of Alien 3 is not the landing gear of the dropship.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1795
Quote from: Master on Oct 29, 2007, 09:27:35 AM
We can asume that queen might have taken one of her eggs and carried it in her secondary hands. We can also assuem that she layed egg without her egg sack ( so called emergency egg) on board of Sulaco. She might have do that cause she was all alone and knew that she might not win the final battle.

when did she have time to lay the so-called "emergency egg" while in the dropship? It was placed on the EEv, upside down in some weird manner as well, she couldn't have tossed it in quickly.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1796
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 29, 2007, 09:37:52 AM
^Not only that, but she is certainly not carrying one once on board the Sulaco, and the location we see the egg in at the beginning of Alien 3 is not the landing gear of the dropship.

Indeed its not. And all the movement of the queen once she left the hatch of the dropship is accounted for, culiminated in her being sucked out the airlock. The writing of that film just suffered as the script wasn't even finished before fincher started filming. It was really, halfass shit to progress the film along to the few things they knew had to happen. Ripley has an alien in her and is going to sacrifice herself. The whole film feels like its just trying to desperately get to that part and all else is not important.

Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#1797
Well, I personally wouldn't lambast the whole film for just a handful of problems and odd decisions, but nevertheless...egg in Alien 3 = poorly thought out quick answer.  :)

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1798
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Oct 29, 2007, 09:45:52 AM
Well, I personally wouldn't lambast the whole film for just a handful of problems and odd decisions, but nevertheless...egg in Alien 3 = poorly thought out quick answer.  :)

it was just a symptom of the greater problem of a halfassed script. The staggering amount of material cut from the film, fills like 30 minutes. I still can't believe they originally never intended to show the queen chestburster burst out of ripley. They re-shot that for the finalized film.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#1799
Anyway this has gone so far off topic. Let's get back to bashing the vomit idea, as apparently so many people still think its reasonable. lol.

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