Alien or Predator?

[Race_of_Hunters]

I'd argue that the "honour" interpretation is the extremist view.

No one says the thing is completely honroable, either.  But the thing clearly has a sense or code of conduct that governs its actions.  This undeniable.  "Honorable" I guess is open to interpretation.  But to say the Predators don't have some form of ethics is a straight up fallacy.

[MadassAlex]

They probably have some sort of ethics concerning how they treat their own kind.

There's small evidence to suggest that they have many ethics concerning their prey, considering the whole sniping-from-a-distance-while-invisible thing and the corpse mutilation.

[Race_of_Hunters]

The distinction between "hunter" and "killer" only has relevance insofar as we're talking about plot justification. When it comes down to dramatic effect and the relationship of the Predator with the characters, there's absolutely no difference.

Sure there is ... a hunter kills for sport.  It is stated in subtext and developed on in sequels that their hunts is a cultural way of life.  A killer kills for self gratification and/or other personal reasons or agendas.  The Predator doesn't just kill anything in its path.  It chooses.  And chooses based off sport reasons.

[SiL]

No-one doubts they hunt for sport.

Just plenty who say they don't hunt for honour.

[MadassAlex]

... considering that the characters justify the Predator's hunt to begin with via being chosen prey, the distinction isn't hugely relevant.

[Race_of_Hunters]

There's small evidence to suggest that they have many ethics concerning their prey, considering the whole sniping-from-a-distance-while-invisible thing and the corpse mutilation.

There is actually numerous instances, especially given the small amount of screen time expanding on the character that flat out states it has a code of ethics concerning their prey.

Sniping from a distance was rarely done, and was generally used in self defense instances when he was being shot at from a distance.

Corpse mutilation?  Only for trophies.  Skinned bodies?  Hunters will often gut and dress their prey while still in the field. Hunters are also known to cut off body parts, e.g., antlers, claws, fur, heads, etc., as trophies.

[Race_of_Hunters]

No-one doubts they hunt for sport.

Just plenty who say they don't hunt for honour.

This I agree with ... I don't think they hunt FOR honor.  Maybe honor from their peers.  But it is for sport.

They do however have a sense of honor to an extent in their actions and the way they carry themselves.

[MadassAlex]

There is actually numerous instances, especially given the small amount of screen time expanding on the character that flat out states it has a code of ethics concerning their prey.

Sniping from a distance was rarely done, and was generally used in self defense instances when he was being shot at from a distance.

Corpse mutilation?  Only for trophies.  Skinned bodies?  Hunters will often gut and dress their prey while still in the field. Hunters are also known to cut off body parts, e.g., antlers, claws, fur, heads, etc., as trophies.

None of which are evidence of honour.

But all of which are evidence of the Predator choosing fun ways of killing prey.

Also, the characters don't really know shit. All they can do is guess, and even Arnie didn't think the Predator was honourable, he just worked out that Anytime wouldn't waste effort if something wasn't fun.

[Race_of_Hunters]

None of which are evidence of honour.

Making trophies of a kill is giving something a sense of honor or value.

[MadassAlex]

Value, yes.

Honour in no way comes into that.

[SiL]

Value, sure. Honour, no.

Game hunters don't treat lion heads with honour, or as a mark of honour. It shows they have big balls.

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GOD DAMMIT MadassAlex!

[Race_of_Hunters]

Honour in no way comes into that.

Perception ...

[MadassAlex]

Value, sure. Honour, no.

Game hunters don't treat lion heads with honour, or as a mark of honour. It shows they have big balls.

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GOD DAMMIT MadassAlex!

When you play the game with the best, you straight-up lose, nigga.

Perception ...

Or not. Taking trophies in no way implies honour.

Honestly, if the directors wanted honour, there's a thousand ways they can imply that. But they didn't.

[huntin8-t0n]

Humans aren't dangerous because their physichal abilities but their weapons and intellect. They can kill preds with the right weaponary and knowledge.

So a Predator going hand-to-hand with a human is just a Predator being a douche.

No, it's a way to give the human more chance. More thrilling, more valuable.

V

Value, yes.

Honour in no way comes into that.

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No way is too much though. As for humans, for preds it can go also. But it's up to the individual, not the race itself, so cannot be described as base of behaviour.

[Race_of_Hunters]

Value, sure. Honour, no.

Sure it can be considered honor ...

If the Predator has such high respect for it's prey that it keeps its skull as a trophy, that is showing his prey honor.

If he didn't care for the kill, or said prey was just cannon fodder that he killed in self defense and he left its worthless body to rot without giving it so much of thought, that would not be showing something a sense of honor.

Keeping something as a trophy shows a sense of distinction of that prey, and showing something a sense of distinction is the definition of HONOR ...