Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 27, 2017, 06:07:17 PMWhich is to say, either no validity whatsoever or all-inclusive equal validity. I like the bigger universe. I like the AVP idea. I don't like the big bald human engineers. It's too lazy, too Star Trek and too poorly executed in the movies. I disagree with Dark Horse's stumpy-legged, bipedal elephantine engineers solution. It assumes the jockey's whole body was in the chair. I think that poor fellow was grown into the chair and couldn't move if he had to. But at least stumpy legs was an attempt based on what we saw in the original. I'm not in love with Fire & Stone, but at least it's bigger universe. I guess there was some push to have a unified canon eu, but it looks like that's going to end up in the tip. It appears all the Alien, Aliens, AVP EU is going to be equivalent of Star Wars legends. It includes good stuff but it doesn't count to canon.Quote from: WABOR on May 27, 2017, 01:59:33 AM
AVP and AVPR aren't canon, they have nothing to do with the Predator Movies or the Alien Saga, the only thing they share is that they both are 20th Century Fox property's and where put into a comic crossover series by Dark Horse. From what I can tell Ridley Scott considers this his canon series: Prometheus, Covenant, Awakening, Paradise, Alien. (maybe Aliens too but probably not)
If we continue down this road, they're going to start being seen as having just as much validity as this new series of prequel films.
Quote from: WABOR on May 27, 2017, 01:59:33 AM
AVP and AVPR aren't canon, they have nothing to do with the Predator Movies or the Alien Saga, the only thing they share is that they both are 20th Century Fox property's and where put into a comic crossover series by Dark Horse. From what I can tell Ridley Scott considers this his canon series: Prometheus, Covenant, Awakening, Paradise, Alien. (maybe Aliens too but probably not)
Quote from: gantarat on May 26, 2017, 04:08:16 PM
AvP very big deal in 90's After Predator 2 and Original AvP Comics.
Even Aliens toyline (Hive Wars) has Predator model.
Quote from: Nunzilla on May 26, 2017, 03:44:16 PMQuote from: N-Shifter on May 25, 2017, 09:45:48 PMQuote from: Mal on May 25, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
I think there's a big mistake with Prometheus and alien covenant if you have watched all the films especially alien vs predator then in a scene it shows the predators wiping the planet clean of the aliens this was set in the time of the Incas and Egyptian era this was way before the so say time David made the aliens
Yeah, there's really no point in trying to makes sense of it by putting the Alien series and AvP series into the same continuity, the AvP movies are in a different universe, an offshoot like a Freddy v Jason movie.
Unless I'm missing something, isn't the only thing that brought Aliens and Predator together in the first place was the Dark Horse comics series and the trophy room Alien skull that Danny Glover sees at the end of P2? It's not like the two universes were combined prior to that. I actually own two of the AvP comic mini-series.
Anyhow, I could care less how Predator plays into the Aliens timeline as I feel that was mostly just a money grab for two franchises that didn't have a path forward at the time.
Quote from: N-Shifter on May 25, 2017, 09:45:48 PMQuote from: Mal on May 25, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
I think there's a big mistake with Prometheus and alien covenant if you have watched all the films especially alien vs predator then in a scene it shows the predators wiping the planet clean of the aliens this was set in the time of the Incas and Egyptian era this was way before the so say time David made the aliens
Yeah, there's really no point in trying to makes sense of it by putting the Alien series and AvP series into the same continuity, the AvP movies are in a different universe, an offshoot like a Freddy v Jason movie.
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 25, 2017, 09:00:06 PMQuote from: Mal on May 25, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
I think there's a big mistake with Prometheus and alien covenant if you have watched all the films especially alien vs predator then in a scene it shows the predators wiping the planet clean of the aliens this was set in the time of the Incas and Egyptian era this was way before the so say time David made the aliens
The Scott prequels are ignoring the AVP continuity, as they did with Peter Weyland in Prometheus.
Quote from: Mal on May 25, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
I think there's a big mistake with Prometheus and alien covenant if you have watched all the films especially alien vs predator then in a scene it shows the predators wiping the planet clean of the aliens this was set in the time of the Incas and Egyptian era this was way before the so say time David made the aliens