David the creator

[Voodoo Magic]

Like the egg, I think the movie just had a bad case of "the studio's".

I got that once. I just put some cream on it and it eventually went away.

You can get there a lot quicker, but you gotta rub it real hard and fast.

[JokersWarPig]

David being the creator is stupid 

[The Old One]

Nah.

[JokersWarPig]

Yah.

[The Old One]

Solid argument, totally understandable POV in comparison to the pages of excellent stuff that, Muthur 9000, Necronomicon, Evanus and others have written on why it isn't stupid. Regardless, not liking it is one thing, I don't outside of Covenant's specific context but calling it stupid is another, a statement that's been proven invalid at this point.

C'mon, engage with the discussion about what works for you and what doesn't, blanket statements aren't all that.

[Huggs]

It's not stupid, it just stinks. Well, depending on the time of day. The more tired I am, the more plausible it gets.

[The Old One]

  Empathy.

[Samhain13]

For me its more tolerable the Turk/Hicks thing or Ripley fighting aliens between Alien and Aliens than David creating the alien. Really ruined things for me. If the original space jockey turns out to be David in the next Ridley movie I might think the Newborn wasn't the worse they could do after all.

But The Predator's ending and its alternative versions were just as bad.

[Huggs]

Poor Turk. The illegitimate jelly biscuit.

That safety support really had a crush on him.

[TheSailingRabbit]

Poor Turk. The illegitimate jelly biscuit.

That safety support really had a crush on him.

Literally.

[Huggs]

Exactly. Alittle too much tongue.

[The Old One]

David creating the alien. Really ruined things for me.

Spoiler

Let's leave aside for the moment that the other things you've mentioned are much,
much worse in that not only are they harder to believe
but also that they only exist because of corporate cynicism.

[close]

Why?

What did it ruin? You can't divorce Covenant's context from the context of the original films?

[Samhain13]

Spoiler

Let's leave aside for the moment that the other things you've mentioned are much,
much worse

[close]

In your opinion sure.

What did it ruin?

The way I saw the ALIEN.

You can't divorce Covenant's context from the context of the original films?

Never said that. It ruined that specific movie and any other future material that follows such idea. And since we are stuck with Ridley for a while, that means any next movies until he is done with whatever he thinks he is doing.

[The Old One]

What did it ruin?

The way I saw the ALIEN.

How so?

[Huggs]

I was most disappointed at first because David's actions directly tie the creature back to humanity. It is a creation of our creation. It's not some natural evil that we stumbled across in the cosmos. Some awful ancient thing that destroys everything it comes into contact with.