Quote from: Guan Thwei 1992 on Nov 21, 2015, 11:08:00 PM
Because continuity, that's why.
If they're gonna turn this into the Walking Dead by bringing back dead characters, I might as well make it fit into one continuity no matter how absurd my excuse sounds.
And that's the thing, "until you get it right", Weyland-Yutani didn't get it right.
Like I said, you don't need the DNA of Rebecca Jordan to experiment. Just do what they did in '
Alien Resurrection' and keep experimenting with Ripley's own "until you get it right". What possible benefit would there be in using Newt's? None, whatsoever.
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 21, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
If he's discussed those details with you without signing a Non Disclosure Agreement, then there's no Project to speak of. He's just mouthing off. Casual conversations between Directors and Actors happen all the time. They mean nothing until signatures are committed to paper and contracts are signed.
Not when said conversations involve the director/writer telling you the basic outline
specifically to try and get you on board. Hell, not when they tell you the basic storyline, period.
He only needs an NDA when he's been signed up and cast. Until then, he's free to speak - and (assuming he was quoted accurately) exactly what incredibly, mind-blowing secrets has he revealed, which weren't already known about? Newt's back and, well, that's all... It's something we've been wondering about, but I can't imagine that's something which wouldn't be revealed in the first couple of minutes, anyway (or even a few days/weeks into production, when casting calls have gone out).
QuoteMy big concern with all of what we have heard so far about 'ALIEN 5' hasn't been all that positive. I'm not just talking about the movie; but how divisive it has been amongst fans. Right now, that division is roughly equal. It's about half of the Community wants to see Hicks and Ripley return thus 'correcting' issiues that 'ALIEN 3' introduced; and the other half of the Community want to see 'ALIEN 3' (and 'ALIEN: Resurrection') be respected as ligitimate entries in the series. It really is surprising how much support both sides have.
That isn't something Blomkamp or even Fox has any control over. That's the fandom whipping
itself into an unnecessary frenzy in the
absence of any real information.
QuoteI believe when a fan base is divided to this extent then something is wrong. Very, very wrong with such a proposal.
As has been pointed out, that's been the case since '
Alien 3' was released.
That's never going to change.
QuoteIf I was in Blomkamp's shoes, I'd be investing in getting as much of this fan base on side as much as possible. To me, that would mean re-assessing his outline for the movie and making some much needed compromises.
No, you wouldn't. You'd be focusing on writing the thing and trying to polish it to be as good as it can be. You wouldn't have control over what others think and the only way to calm everything would be if you revealed your story. There is literally nothing he can do to calm the waters. Most of the argumentative stuff has been from fans coming up with theories of their own making.
QuoteI've said this before but I think most fans would love a sequel to 'ALIENS' that didn't retcon the latter movies in the series. If fans want an 'ALIENS' sequel, then by all means why does it have to perform any retcon at all? It's a simple matter of framing the events of a sequel within the same time frame as 'ALIEN 3' but use a fresh cast of characters without attempting to shoe horn deceased favourites back into the series. Isn't that what most of us want? A fresh entry in the series where marines are pitted once again against xenos? It doesn't realy matter who's starring in the movie and holding down the pulse rifle triggers as long as the story is engaging and the characters are worthy of our commitment to them.
I've pointed this out before and will do so again: Blomkmap has already gone on the record as saying his original story was different and took account of '
Alien 3' and such. It was
Weaver who changed that.
It's also
Weaver who doesn't want to play Ripley's clone.
I'm constantly puzzled at why Blomkamp's copping all the shit for this, when it's
Weaver who was the driving force for those changes.
If I had the chance to write and direct an '
Alien' film, I'd make something original, too. If Weaver talked to me and was able to miraculously somehow make it a reality, you can bet I'd change my basic story, too!
Quote from: majorShears on Nov 23, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
Indeed. A retcon would create a mess of things and squander some great possibilities. I could see a fifth film beginning with Ripley 8 wandering about space without a clear purpose, before deciding to investigate her past and, eventually, taking on the company (whatever company) to get rid of the aliens once and for all. The character could change throughout the story, becoming more and more "human" through her connection with the past. The film could even feature references to Newt and Hicks, which could make for some fairly dramatic scenes. An existentialist undercurrent could be integrated into the story, making the film a sort of "genetic sibling" of Alien 3, only without all the complaints about sudden deaths of beloved characters.
And I'm sure that's probably been in at least one of the scripts which, no matter how insightful, Weaver was responsible for saying no to. She doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8. She does, however, want to reprise Ellen Ripley.