Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 29, 2019, 08:40:36 AM
I really enjoyed The Winter Solider, but it was hurt for me by the fact that, for a film with Winter Soldier in the title, he barely featured and we really didn't learn f*ck-all about what he was up to. It also had one of those terrible just-stop-in-the-middle-of-a-scene "cliffhanger" endings that I so hate.
I never found it as a cliffhanger, nor was left with The Winter Soldier being an unresolved antagonist. We learned that Hydra had infiltrated SHIELD starting from the top with Alexander Pierce, they had coopted Bucky and made him a villian called the TWS, and they planned to exterminate all threats based on Zola's data-mining algorithm. Their plan was foiled, the Hydra run SHIELD was stopped, exposed and arrests were made, Steve got through to Bucky and subsequently saved by him, and Alexander Pierce was killed.
Just because Bucky went into hiding when the dust settled and Steve wants to go look for him, I never classified that tease as a cliffhanger in my opinion.
Quote from: LastSonofKrypton on May 29, 2019, 08:53:10 AM
Civil War is in my top three comic books of all time, just behind Death of Superman and The Dark Knight Returns. Though I have softened on my opinion of the movie, Civil War was the biggest let down because they had so much potential to work with and it felt like they were cramming all of that in together with Bucky's struggle.
See this is where you lose me good friend. I'm a huge fan of the Civil War comic event, as well as the film - it's in the top 3 of mcu films to me. I have no problem someone making this criticism, but knowing you called BvS a "masterpiece", a film that excessively crammed much more than Civil War ever did, it's hard to see where coming from without some critical consistency.