Prometheus Based off of Ancient Astronaut Theory?

Started by droideggs, Dec 03, 2011, 10:58:29 PM

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droideggs

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 10, 2012, 12:40:56 AM
Ancient astronauts is just wonderful story much like the bible was. Kind of like what we do to all of the movies we watch. Try to make sense where there is no sense to be made.

Prometheus will probably be more like Akira's mutant I'm hoping.

if you say so :)

I'm looking forward to seeing ancient astronaut themes in the movie and seeing folks like you shake their head in disgust.

ThisBethesdaSea

The ancient astronaut theory is as plausible as a 'Christian God in Heaven' story. Science tells us the how but not the why. There has to be a why, matter didn't create itself. I'd like to see this explored.

maledoro

maledoro

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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 10, 2012, 01:30:18 AMThere has to be a why, matter didn't create itself. I'd like to see this explored.
There doesn't have to be a "why" about any of that stuff. I just accept that it simply is. To ask "why" there is matter is to engage in terminal navel-gazing.

ThisBethesdaSea

so space and matter and all of it...just 'is'? There's no beginning...everything just is? I'm not satisfied with that status quo. I'd like to explore the 'what if'

maledoro

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 10, 2012, 01:44:31 AMso space and matter and all of it...just 'is'?
I hate to repeat myself...

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 10, 2012, 01:44:31 AMThere's no beginning...everything just is?
I never said there's no beginning! Where the hell did you get that from?!

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 10, 2012, 01:44:31 AMI'm not satisfied with that status quo. I'd like to explore the 'what if'
The trouble is that the "why" is subject to opinion, not empirical evidence. Since anyone's guess is as good as the others' when it comes to "why", the quest is pointless. In my previous post, I offered you two simple solutions to your "why" inquiry.

evolution_rex

I always like Ancient Alien stories, it always creeps me out or intrigues me. for example, the aliens that know Surmarain (spelling?) in The Fourth Kind creeped me out, but the monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey deeply intrigues me in a mystifying way.

I wouldn't be disappointed if it was part of the plot of Prometheus, I just hope its done in an original way.

maledoro

maledoro

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Quote from: evolution_rex on Jan 10, 2012, 02:12:51 AMSurmarain (spelling?)
"Sumerian".

Quote from: evolution_rex on Jan 10, 2012, 02:12:51 AMI wouldn't be disappointed if it was part of the plot of Prometheus, I just hope its done in an original way.
No matter how you slice it, it's still the same thing: Ancient Astronauts, but a different species.

This reminds me of the old gimmick where a different character from different movies, TV shows, novels, whatever, would be responsible for killing Kennedy. Now, it seems like, "No! It was our franchise's aliens that kicked off life on Earth!".

evolution_rex

evolution_rex

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Quote from: maledoro on Jan 10, 2012, 02:24:59 AM]"Sumerian".
Thanks.

QuoteNo matter how you slice it, it's still the same thing: Ancient Astronauts, but a different species.
Not necessarily. There are different religions in the world, different ways they created humanity, and different motives.

maledoro

maledoro

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Quote from: evolution_rex on Jan 10, 2012, 02:28:58 AMNot necessarily. There are different religions in the world, different ways they created humanity, and different motives.
We're talking about ancient astronauts in sci-fi movies. Aside from a few oddball religions such as $cientology and the Raelians, I have yet to encounter a religion that is based on alien beings in the literal sense.

Wobblyboddle77

Wobblyboddle77

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I was in waterstones recently and came across a set of books about the ancient astronaut theory. It was a few books including Van Danikan , i was very intrigued i think the bookset was about thirty pounds, am gonna see if i can find it anywhere cheaper online, the book set was massive though. i'm so looking forward to see what Scott has come up with, and imagine all the special features that could potentially be on the blu ray, scotts commentaries are great and he always talks openly.I think we're in for something very special.

evolution_rex

evolution_rex

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Quote from: maledoro on Jan 10, 2012, 02:33:11 AM
We're talking about ancient astronauts in sci-fi movies. Aside from a few oddball religions such as $cientology and the Raelians, I have yet to encounter a religion that is based on alien beings in the literal sense.
That's not what I mean. I'm saying, they could make a movie about the Christian God being an alien and another movie about the Greek Gods and Goddesses being aliens, and they'd be totally different movies. Usually ancient alien movies revolve around Egyptian mythology or some ancient Babylonian mythology. Depending on what religion it is, the alien could look and act a certain way. Make sense?

Deuterium

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 10, 2012, 01:30:18 AM
The ancient astronaut theory is as plausible as a 'Christian God in Heaven' story. Science tells us the how but not the why. There has to be a why, matter didn't create itself. I'd like to see this explored.

No, I would respectfully argue that they are completely different.  Visitation by "ancient alien astronauts" has at least the ability to be scientifically studied...for example, finding compelling evidence in artifacts and archaeological digs.  This falls within the realm of Science.

Faith and Belief in the existence of God, and Christ is not based on physical Science, and is not subject to scientific methods.  It is outside of the purview of Science...and transcends it.  Truths and facts about our physical Universe are the arena of Science.  Moral truths related to our existence and purpose are revealed to us (for those who do believe) through Scripture as well as Divine insight via the Holy Spirit.

St. Thomas Aquinas fully explored the relationship between physical science and natural theology...and the compatibility between the two (they are not mutually exclusive). 

Quote"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible."
― Thomas Aquinas

maledoro

maledoro

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Quote from: Wobblyboddle77 on Jan 10, 2012, 02:41:48 AMI was in waterstones recently and came across a set of books about the ancient astronaut theory. It was a few books including Van Danikan , i was very intrigued i think the bookset was about thirty pounds, am gonna see if i can find it anywhere cheaper online, the book set was massive though.
Pay as little as possible for it.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AMNo, I would respectfully argue that they are completely different.  Visitation by "ancient alien astronauts" has at least the ability to be scientifically studied...for example, finding compelling evidence in artifacts and archaeological digs.  This falls within the realm of Science.
And since the evidence for it was ambiguity and all other evidence is contrary, it does not fall within the realm of Science, but Pseudoscience.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AMFaith and Belief in the existence of God, and Christ is not based on physical Science, and is not subject to scientific methods.
Only the moralistic stuff isn't. Anything that has to do with reality in the physical realm is subject to testing.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AMIt is outside of the purview of Science...and transcends it.
And since it isn't a part of it, there is no way you can know its existence, nor can one say "God did it!" when it comes to changes in our physical world.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AMTruths and facts about our physical Universe are the arena of Science.  Moral truths related to our existence and purpose are revealed to us (for those who do believe) through Scripture as well as Divine insight via the Holy Spirit.
That means they are mutually exclusive.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AMSt. Thomas Aquinas fully explored the relationship between physical science and natural theology
To the best of his 13th Century knowledge. The Scientific Method wasn't even created yet. If Aquinas was here today, he'd only attract those on the religious and pseudoscientific fringe.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AM...and the compatibility between the two (they are not mutually exclusive).
You can't say that religion can't be tested scientifically and then turn around and say Religion and Science are not mutually exclusive.

Quote from: deuterium on Jan 10, 2012, 04:31:33 AM
Quote"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible."
― Thomas Aquinas
Or so he thought. The more knowledge proceeds, the more God recedes.

ThisBethesdaSea

The god that's taught in world religions recedes ;)

Kol

Kol

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Quote from: droideggs on Jan 10, 2012, 01:30:07 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing ancient astronaut themes in the movie and seeing folks like you shake their head in disgust.

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sorry for quoting myself, but i think it fits better in this thread, than the trailer thread's.
pls not bash me that hard - this post is provocative, in every sense. at least for all the orthodox-minded people.

ps: i never sucked erich von däniken's cock!

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