AVPR- LIGHTING

[Samhain13]

If you go by the hivemind thing, the aliens are aware of the danger the Predators can be due to the Queen's memories on them.

There are aware of how much violent Predator are and the threat they can be towards their kind in comparison to other species,  there might be anger and revenge feelings to it so even one is running away and not doing anything dangerous it wouldn't matter due to the history between them. The Queens that were used in the rituals are probably really pissed off. Is it like prejudice from the Aliens against all Predators?

Those 3 preds were not the ones responsible for what happened towards the Queen, they are just kids thrown into violent challenge to man up. Maybe one of them didn't even want to be there but they were punished regardless, regardless the deaths of everyone involved was just collateral damage of the system that Predator clan created.

Maybe increasing their numbers first, even to that extreme was a strategy for the aliens to make sure the Predators wouldn't stand a chance and that the Queen would be easily free. They had their plasma casters already, relying on numbers was their only chance.

[SiL]

Still doesn't explain why no Aliens would spread into the forest.

We see in the movie that they don't care if there is a Predator actively shooting them in the face, if they have the chance to save the Queen they will - even if there's half a dozen of them.

It's a dumb scene that looks cool.

This isn't the place for that real-world discussion. The point is Alien and Marvel have always been political and provide social commentary, regardless of whether or not you saw it without it being pointed out to you.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64053.msg2489813#new

Thanks! I'm not actually omniscient so I appreciate the context.

[Kradan]

[Mr.Turok]

Still doesn't explain why no Aliens would spread into the forest.

We see in the movie that they don't care if there is a Predator actively shooting them in the face, if they have the chance to save the Queen they will - even if there's half a dozen of them.

It's a dumb scene that looks cool.

3 Predators are a more threat in the immediate area than some jaguar in the rainforest. Just like how bees and ants swarm in on a threat near their hive., the preds were right in xeno territory so of course they would all jump in. 

Plus who can say that maybe they had some kind of homing signature that lured in the aliens so that once the all mass in center, one of them can detonate the self destruct sequence and eliminate the alien threat at once, thus preventing further infestation. Other media had preds control xenos to a level before, who's to say they didn't have something similar in case of a situation like that?

[SiL]

The Aliens later in the movie were actively being shot in the face and still decided to go do something else. They completely ignored Scar and Lex after that until Scar and Lex ran into them; they were fully preparing to run away and expand.

[Stitch]

The Aliens later in the movie were actively being shot in the face and still decided to go do something else. They completely ignored Scar and Lex after that until Scar and Lex ran into them; they were fully preparing to run away and expand.

I guess we'll never know the context of why those 3 predators deserved all the attention of all the aliens, simply because it's a very short scene and we only see the outcome, not the setup. There might be a completely logical reason for all aliens to be focused on one small group.

Probably just because Anderson thought it looked cool.

[SiL]

I think because it's a story the Predators wrote on the floor and not something that literally happened. I think more likely with the nukes would be the last predator standing blowing himself up in the temple.

The issue remains that the film shows the Aliens clearly take opportunities to run out and spread, so the whole concept undermines the drive to prevent them getting to earth. Even when not isolated on an island, they don't seem to get anywhere.

[TurokSwe]

I think because it's a story the Predators wrote on the floor and not something that literally happened. I think more likely with the nukes would be the last predator standing blowing himself up in the temple.

The issue remains that the film shows the Aliens clearly take opportunities to run out and spread, so the whole concept undermines the drive to prevent them getting to earth. Even when not isolated on an island, they don't seem to get anywhere.

Again, as stated before, it's a short scene of a story where we only know the outcome, not the setup or all factors involved, and its purpose was to establish the mythology and make sense of the setting (in a very cool way). This is still an unfair criticism taken farther than it should to say the least. In no way does this undermine the drive to prevent them from getting to Earth.

[SiL]

Again, they've been on earth for thousands of years and the short story clearly shows the Predators aren't always on top of things - yet nothing too bad seems to happen.

[426Buddy]

Sil = logic
Turok = emotion

[TurokSwe]

Again, they've been on earth for thousands of years and the short story clearly shows the Predators aren't always on top of things - yet nothing too bad seems to happen.

Nothing too bad happens? Xenomorphs overrun and eradicate entire civilizations isn't "too bad"? Come on.

Sil = logic
Turok = emotion

How do you mean I'm supposedly arguing from "emotion" contrary to Sil? That seems an unfair and dishonest assessment. It seems we're both trying to approach this from a logical standpoint, except Sil doesn't seem to really think through his criticisms properly and ultimately rendering them unfair and unreasonable, and it's thus very poor logic, and you may even argue he's applying more of an emotional response as he keeps insisting upon the Xenomorphs having been on Earth suddenly means we shouldn't bother if they return to Earth in the future and using this as basis for personal despise of AVP. Feel free to elaborate if you think you can present a better argument.

[Kradan]

Yeah, both of you present curious mixtures of emotion and logic

[SM]

I sense someone 'promoting falsehood'...

[Xenomrph]

At least it's not a f**kin' canon debate.

[SiL]

Nothing too bad happens? Xenomorphs overrun and eradicate entire civilizations isn't "too bad"? Come on.

Compared to the global catastrophe the original series threatens, no. It's always contained. And the Predators do the wiping out.