Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl

[Nightmare Asylum]

ah ...transhumanism

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[BlueMarsalis79]

Wow damn that sounds a little stupid.

Also while occasional movies like 'Big' have pulled it off, "literal child in the body of an adult" is a bit of an ethical and creative minefield that I'm always wary of seeing it tackled and I'm not thrilled about seeing it in an Alien project.

This year  Emma Stone in  Poor Things for example. Movie of year and very creative.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poor_things




These types of characters were normal in Noah's previous series, LEGION.

-Dan Stevens: A mutant who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at a young age.

-Rachel Keller:

 She does not let anyone physically touch her because by doing so, her mind is swapped with the mind of the person she touches.


-Bill Irwin: A "geek scientist", one of the therapist Bird's specialists.He and Kerry live together in the same body, and can separate at will. Hawley sought out Irwin for his "playful approach to the characters."

-Amber Midthunder: A savant with a "childlike sense of wonder", one of Therapist Bird's specialists.� She maintains a younger appearance than Cary as she only ages when their bodies are separated.

Wendy is  like  Noah style and  this is  an author. Style Noah  within the Alien universe. So it's natural that , he explore those kinds of sci-fi personalities in Alien. 

Is clear that it is a risky Alien series but after more than 30 years sometimes you have jump into the pool... is good. Prometheus is  more Blade Runner than others movies ALIEN . I think than this serie is more Alita, Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell but is Alien in style too. And in 8 hours is a complete styles and tematic  general sfci and Alien/terror. In movie only 2 hours is different.

And even more so when Fede's movie, which is supposed to be more conservative, is released a year before.

Qft

[Gimitko]

Rysdahl talks about being cast in the series

Well, Noah Hawley clearly likes being in the David Rysdahl business, as he also cast you in his upcoming Alien series. Was this in the works, pre-strike?

Yeah, I went over to Thailand for one day of camera tests, and then things shut down. Noah told me after we wrapped on Fargo. He said, "There might be a role for you on Alien," and I grew up on both Alien and Fargo. So if you had told me two years ago that I was going to be in either universe, I would've thought you were crazy, and the idea that I get to play on both playgrounds makes me feel pretty lucky and grateful. And Noah, in a similar fashion to Fargo, takes the movie and asks, "What's the DNA of this? What's the world perspective? What themes are we tackling? What was the original intent of this movie? Let me see if I can play with that in a new way." So he's doing a really interesting job of that on Alien, and it's going to be a very different but very exciting view of what the original movie was.

[SiL]

The original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

They've already failed.

[BlueMarsalis79]

[Local Trouble]

The original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

Ridley could have used that perspective when he made the prequels.  Now it's in vogue and we're about to see it reach its peak with this series.

[Ingwar]

The original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

They've already failed.

Who has failed?

[𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯]

They haven't even begun filming in earnest and it's already "failed".

[SiL]

If the goal is to grasp the intent of the first film and they're honing in on pretentious transhumanism themes and cringy "let's put little girls in adult bodies" tropes, then yeah, they've failed in that regard.

Whether they make something good, however, remains to be seen.

I have about as many f**ks to give as Sir Scott himself does when it comes to tempering my reactions to this project. Not a word of it sounds any good. I'll be glad to be proved wrong, but until then, my expectations are in the pits.

[𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯]

But Noah said the intent was to play with it in a new way. He said it was going to be "very different" to the first film.

Alvarez's film is obviously following the more traditional route but this guy is taking it in a completely new direction.

[XENOMORPHOSIS]

Hmm this is curious, neat to hear his description of bei mg involved. With this TV show much like subsequent Alein sequel/spin off material it's bit of a challenge because fans may get annoyed, that if it attempts to try its own thing given a new concept, theme and tone they'll complain if it's too different, but if it plays it safe and just repeats cues, tropes, cliches character and archetypes they complain it's too much of the same.

[Ingwar]

They haven't even begun filming in earnest and it's already "failed".

Some people prefer to be negative than positive.