Randy Pitchford Talks Aliens: Colonial Marines

[SM]

The point is that some people are being hyper critical of gearbox for things that were out of their control, without even having played the game yet. 

What precisely was out of Gearbox's control?

[escroto]

I agree with all Xenomorphine said (I just though the same with each single clue GB are throwing, It was just wtf is this Pitchford guy talking about lol) and then what SM said about the arrogance Pitchford is displaying by that unfortunate "Alien 3 will be a better movie" quote of his.

GB simply don't understand that targeting the hardcore nerds "Aliens" fans only, and then sharing their pathetically narrow vision of the alien universe will make them as foolish and as narrow minded as these last ones have always been. And contradictions start popping up in what this Pitchford dude speaks as well, so what is he saying about contradictions in alien 3?, lol, It's fun If you think about It

You can not simply speak in all directions like If you were the one:  "We are making alien 3 a lot better; we're the meeenn". Man that's awful.

[Xenomrph]

Their "vision" doesn't seem particularly narrow.

[acrediblesource]

 "Alien3 is actually a better movie." noteworthy since its the most neglected of the 3 and it  by far held strong on the alien dna aspect of alien and fear binding. While Aliens just brought a bunch of nervous Marines into a place and things went FUBAR kind of like a b-movie slasher film.

[chupacabras acheronsis]

the moment they said this game is canon then all the "BUT WE HAVEN'T PLAYED IT YET!!!" comebacks got flushed down the toilet.

it's not about the freaking game anymore, that's the problem. they did this silly thing of pretending they knew more about the universe than people whose whole point in life *IS* knowing about universe. and it backfired when they ended up on the same conundrum as we've been since 1992.

[Predaker]

Fox wanted us to believe a nuclear powered atmospheric processor was capable of producing a blast equivalent to that of a thermonuclear weapon. That is far fetched within itself. Now Fox wants us to believe the colony is partially intact, it seems.

Perhaps they should have taken shelter with the zombie facehugger in order to survive the explosion.

[ShadowPred]

<p><a href="http://kotaku.com/5907653/the-authorized-story-of-the-next-aliens-video-game-will-change-the-way-we-see-aliens-and-alien-3">Kotaku</a> has recently interviewed Gearbox CEO about the upcoming Aliens: Colonial Marines videogame. This time Randy Pitchford talks about Gearbox's approach to the story and how the studio plans to explain the inconsistencies between Aliens and Alien 3. Be aware of spoilers.</p><p><em>"One of the things we're really proud about is that there were some things that fans like us always believed were inconsistencies between Alien3 and Aliens," Pitchford said, "But as we dig into it, as we work with filmmakers and kind of understand it all and think about it from a logic problem point of view, there is actually a truth there that makes more sense. When we are able to use it to stitch it together, Alien3 is actually a better movie."</em></p><p><!--more--></p><p><strong>Full article:</strong><em> The next Aliens video game counts. It's canon. And the people who are making it think it might finally solve some key mysteries in the film—and even make the films a bit better.</em></p><p><em>"It's all connected together," Randy Pitchford, head of Gearbox Software said to me recently, as we sat down in a convention hall in Boston to chat about Aliens: Colonial Marines, the big new game his team has been working on for several years.</em></p><p><em>The Authorized Story of the Next Aliens Video Game Will Change the Way We See Aliens and Alien3. Just before we chatted, another Gearbox developer had played an early part of Colonial Marines in front of me, blowing my mind a bit as he controlled a post-Aliens space Marine boarding the massive Sulaco. You might remember that ship from Aliens as the final battleground between an angry alien queen and a furious, mech-driving Ellen Ripley. The Marine was a member of a battalion that will be featured in the new game. He's attached to a recovery crew that links their ship to that huge, famous ship, the USS Sulaco. The Sulaco is floating in space above LV426, the planetoid on which much of James Cameron's Aliens and its predecessor, Ridley Scott's Alien, occurred.</em></p><p><em>The Marine heads into the loading bay, where the bottom half of the android Bishop lies, last seen when the alien queen ripped him apart at the end of Aliens. In this early bit, our Marine chats with some of the other recovery personnel in the bay. He heads past some monitors that just might hold hints to what really happened—what moviegoers were never told—to Ripley, Hicks and Newt between Aliens and Alien3. That's still a big question. What did happen on the Sulaco between the movie that ended with those three in cryo sleep and the next, which left two of them dead and Ripley, impregnated by Alien, ejected from the Sulaco onto the prison planet of Fury 161?</em></p><p><em>The Prometheus Connection Trailers for Ridley Scott's Prometheus movie have shown what appears to be the Derelict ship from Alien but the filmmaker has been cagey about how neatly his new movie fits into Alien lore. "On the one hand, you can feel the DNA of the Aliens franchise in it," Pitchford said of the upcoming movie. "If you ask Ridley, he'll tell you he's certainly borrowed things from the universe... He's not developing it as true canon. There are some inconsistencies that he accepted in order for his film to be the good story he wanted to tell there. To the extent that it is part of the Aliens universe, it's prequel material. We're sequel material. Having said that, the endpoint of our adventure is the Derelict which is also the starting point on LV-426 with the Space Jockeys. There is a bit of a link there."</em></p><p><em>"To make the sequel to Aliens as a video game was our prerequisite," Pitchford told me, grinning. And the studio behind the movies, 20th Century Fox, obliged. "The commitment they made was, 'Yes borrow the franchise for the purpose of doing the next story in the succession of those storylines.'"</em></p><p><em>While Pitchford stresses that his team "wants to tell a new story" and won't re-tell the films, he can't help but have the game intersect. We will board the Sulaco; we will be joined by a synthetic who was the same model as Bishop and will therefore look like and be voiced by Bishop actor Lance Henriksen; we will head down to LV426; we will check out the ruins of ruins of Hadley's Hope, the human colony set up by the Weyland-Yutani corporation after the first Alien and whose residents were annihilated by the aliens just before Aliens begins. Those aliens came from the mysterious Derelict, the space-ship seemingly driven by something called the Space Jockey and filled with alien eggs, as seen in Alien.</em></p><p><em>"We don't treat the fan-service as the point," Pitchford said. "It's not the center of it, but it's there." It's there because Aliens: Colonial Marines really does sound like the logical tale of what would happen next. It's a shooter but it is seemingly also going to be a detective story.</em><br /><em>How it all fits together</em></p><p><em>Pitchford and his team have a very good grasp on Alien series lore. They've absorbed the films, spoken to Ridley Scott, discovered back-stories that didn't make it into the films and identified what's canonical. They know What Happened and that helped them shape their story.</em></p><p><em>Here's Pitchford, with some asides from me, walking me through the fiction of Aliens and Alien3 while zeroing in on the mysteries he hopes to help players solve with the new game.</em></p><p><em>"At the end of Aliens, Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop go to sleep and are presumably going home. At the beginning of Alien3 something happened. We never knew what or why. But something caused them to be ejected from the Sulaco and they ended up on this prison planet.</em></p><p><em>"The Sulaco is there at the prison planet." [Note from Stephen: Right? It's definitely not over LV426, which is where it appears to be in the start of Colonial Marines. Logically, it'd be near the planet it ejected Ripley onto.]</em></p><p><em>"Everything that Ripley dealt with on the prison planet ends with her martyring herself as Weyland-Yutani is trying to collect the specimen." [Note from Stephen: That's the end of Alien3, of course.]</em></p><p><em>"Weyland-Yutani actually ... boarded the Sulaco." [Note from Stephen: I did not know this, but it makes sense. Menacing corporation that sets up Hadley's Hope and wants to retrieve alien queen embryo would obviously track down the Sulaco and search it.]</em></p><p><em>    No Easy Bug-Hunt Video games tend to have higher body counts than even the most violent movies, which relegates many movie-related bad guys in games to cannon fodder. But Gearbox doesn't want to turn the fearsome xenomorphs of Alien and Alien3 into easily-swattable bugs. "We're going to need to defeat some things but we are also going to need to feel the deadliness of them," Pitchford said. "The actual game is pretty lethal. The skill test is anticipating or reacting. If you are good at anticipating and reacting you will be killing lots of xenos and you will be effective at it. You have the tools to do it. But when they get you, they frickin' get you. You'll die. You'll die a lot. I don't know if we're as far as Dark Souls. We're still tuning it, but it's going to be pretty brutal."</em></p><p><em>"Something happened before that Ripley doesn't know about that led to the ejection [from the Sulaco.]. If Weyland-Yutani can't get the specimen from Ripley, and they are on the ship, what would their next step be? It would be to turn the ship around and go back to the source, LV426.</em></p><p><em>"So the Sulaco gets back to LV426. Now, [in the game], we're part of the contingent that's the rescue crew. Remember, Ripley asks how long before we're overdue can we expect a rescue and Hicks says 17 days. And Hudson says something like, '17 days? We're not going to last 17 hours, man.' That creates the opening for the ship that's going to go deal with the fact that something happened. Now the Sulaco is reported destroyed. They didn't send it in 17 days, but they are going to investigate. 17 weeks later, Weyland-Yutani has had plenty of time on LV426.</em></p><p><em>"Now, LV426 is actually a moon around a ring planet. It's actually not a planet itself. But it's a big one. It's a shake-n-bake colony, so there's a bit of an atmosphere. The atmosphere processor blew [Note from Stephen: during Aliens]. That is about 3 kilometers away is where Hadley's Hope is, and it's taken a lot of damage because that was about a 40 megaton blast. About 1000 kilometers away from that is where the derelict was. That's the big ship that had all the eggs in Alien.</em></p><p><em>In this deleted scene from Aliens, a family of colonists from Hadley's Hope inspects the Derelict crash site and makes first, terrible contact with the aliens. We'll be heading out there in the new game.</em></p><p><em>"We know where Alien begins, there's a Derelict on this alien planet and we also know from Aliens that, when they finally found Ripley and Burke sent a report, that got the colonists out to see what is this. [They were told:] 'Go to this grid point, see what's there.' And that's when they stumbled into the eggs and that's when Hadley's Hope was taken over."</em></p><p><em>I thought I knew the movies well, but much of what Pitchford told me here went over my head the first time. Hadley's Hope? That was were Newt lived, right? (Right.) The Derelict? We never really saw much of that, just glimpses, right? (Right.) But the more I thought about it all, the more I looked over what Pitchford told me, the more neatly it all clicked together.</em></p><p><em>Trailer for Gearsbox's Aliens: Colonial Marines which is slated for a late 2012 release on the Xbox 360, PS3, PC, Wii U</em><br /><em>"One of the things we're really proud about is that there were some things that fans like us always believed were inconsistencies between Alien3 and Aliens," Pitchford said, "But as we dig into it, as we work with filmmakers and kind of understand it all and think about it from a logic problem point of view, there is actually a truth there that makes more sense. When we are able to use it to stitch it together, Alien3 is actually a better movie."</em></p><p><em>This is a sequel that matters. That's clear. Hopefully, it is one worthy of the films it ties together.</em></p><p><a href="http://www.avpgalaxy.net/?p=11493">Link To Post</a>

After seeing that terrible demo at E3 or whatever it was, and now this? I honestly can't get excited for this anymore. I haven't been talking at all about this game since first hearing about it, because I honestly couldn't care less at the time, then the game started getting interesting to me for some reason after we saw screenshots and details on the game, then it didn't want to be released, then there were talks of cancellation. I just can't anymore, I want this game to be awesome, but I just don't see it happening for me.

[Xenomrph]

Perhaps they should have taken shelter with the zombie facehugger in order to survive the explosion.

How do you know the facehugger isn't new?
Just sayin'.

Whole lotta people condemning elements that "don't make sense" before they have all the facts.

[Predaker]

Perhaps they should have taken shelter with the zombie facehugger in order to survive the explosion.

How do you know the facehugger isn't new?
Just sayin'.

Whole lotta people condemning elements that "don't make sense" before they have all the facts.

Indeed! I was just joking. I don't know where that facehugger came from and honestly, I don't really care either.

I am just ready to have a good time playing this game, as I hope we all are. I am really looking forward to the co-op and multiplayer aspects, not to mention exploring the derelict.

[Valaquen]

While Aliens just brought a bunch of nervous Marines into a place and things went FUBAR kind of like a b-movie slasher film.

Like Alien, then.

[Samus007]

No. This in no way will make alien 3 "better". Nothing will ever make a movie about a bunch of pathetic prisoners better. Maybe it will clear up a few things about the beggining, and that's all fine and dandy, but it still won't make it better.

If someone said to me, "hey, we are going to release a monster into a prison loaded with a bunch of murders and rapists and your supposed to care about the people", I would have replied with, "go ahead, I'll enjoy watching garbage die, but I don't care one bit about them". 

Somehow, it's still better then resurrection.

But to get back on topic, I am still looking forward to the game, but I have a bad feeling it will be mediocre like the last avp game.  As for explaining the egg from alien 3, it will be interesting to see how that is handled.

[Mechafist]

Alien 3 isn't a bad movie it's quite entertain, of course its nothing compared with Alien and Aliens master pieces but there is still some epic moments in this movie and this moments make the movie very entertain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKY7ZFabTq8#ws
What Gearbox is trying to say is that Alien 3 will be "better explained" and this of course will make the movie better at last for me  .

[Xenomrph]

While Aliens just brought a bunch of nervous Marines into a place and things went FUBAR kind of like a b-movie slasher film.

Like Alien, then.

That's the funny part, many people don't realize that 'Alien' is essentially a B-movie that (serendipitously) got an A-movie treatment thanks to great design work, directing, and acting.

[SpreadEagleBeagle]

No. This in no way will make alien 3 "better". Nothing will ever make a movie about a bunch of pathetic prisoners better. Maybe it will clear up a few things about the beggining, and that's all fine and dandy, but it still won't make it better.

I see that you didn't get or don't care about the symbolisms and themes of the film then. I agree however that there is nothing Gearbox can do to make Alien 3 better except for explaining the whereabouts of the mysterious egg in the beginning.

If someone said to me, "hey, we are going to release a monster into a prison loaded with a bunch of murders and rapists and your supposed to care about the people", I would have replied with, "go ahead, I'll enjoy watching garbage die, but I don't care one bit about them".

I take it that you you're not a big fan of HBO shows either.

Alien 3 isn't a bad movie it's quite entertain, of course its nothing compared with Alien and Aliens master pieces but there is still some epic moments in this movie and this moments make the movie very entertain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKY7ZFabTq8
What Gearbox is trying to say is that Alien 3 will be "better explained" and this of course will make the movie better at last for me  .

I can't for the love of god see how "explaining" the egg thing will make Alien 3 a better movie. Please explain that to me.

And btw. Alien 3 is light-years better than Aliens and right behind Alien if you ask me. Really don't get the Aliens hype and frankly it is starting to annoy the hell out of me because it is not uncommon that it is followed up by how "bad" Alien 3 is.

[Samus007]

No. This in no way will make alien 3 "better". Nothing will ever make a movie about a bunch of pathetic prisoners better. Maybe it will clear up a few things about the beggining, and that's all fine and dandy, but it still won't make it better.

I see that you didn't get or don't care about the symbolisms and themes of the film then. I agree however that there is nothing Gearbox can do to make Alien 3 better except for explaining the whereabouts of the mysterious egg in the beginning.

If someone said to me, "hey, we are going to release a monster into a prison loaded with a bunch of murders and rapists and your supposed to care about the people", I would have replied with, "go ahead, I'll enjoy watching garbage die, but I don't care one bit about them".

I take it that you you're not a big fan of HBO shows either.

Alien 3 isn't a bad movie it's quite entertain, of course its nothing compared with Alien and Aliens master pieces but there is still some epic moments in this movie and this moments make the movie very entertain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKY7ZFabTq8
What Gearbox is trying to say is that Alien 3 will be "better explained" and this of course will make the movie better at last for me  .

I can't for the love of god see how "explaining" the egg thing will make Alien 3 a better movie. Please explain that to me.

And btw. Alien 3 is light-years better than Aliens if you ask me and right behind Alien if you ask me. Really don't get the Aliens hype and frankly it is starting to annoy the hell out of me because it is not uncommon that it is followed up by how "bad" Alien 3 is.

It depends on the hbo show.

Just because in alien 3 they "found God" doesn't mean I should magically start caring about these monsters (the cast). The one character besides ripley that was like able was Clemens, and they killed him midway.

As for alien3 being a far better film then aliens, your are entitled to your own opinion. The alien 3 being called an underrated movie really annoys the hell out of me

Alien and aliens are considered by many, fans and just general movie goers, as instant classics both highly rated. Alien 3 is not. Not by a long shot.

Alien 3 isn't a bad movie it's quite entertain, of course its nothing compared with Alien and Aliens master pieces but there is still some epic moments in this movie and this moments make the movie very entertain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKY7ZFabTq8
What Gearbox is trying to say is that Alien 3 will be "better explained" and this of course will make the movie better at last for me  .

Oh yeah, it has some really great moments. But when someone dies, I just don't care, at all. Which is sad, because in my opinion, you should care about the cast of characters.