Quote from: kwisatz on May 22, 2019, 04:41:44 AM
The impression i get from the TV series is hat Martins books are more realistic for example in how they depict human characters. In LotR the moral compass for most of the characters is more or less fixed and predictable and can only vary tremendously under the influence of a magical device like the one ring.
Not really.
Frodo's character is fixed throughout the story. Then at the very end....bada bing bada bang, he did a complete 180 and totally submitted to the ring. And you can't blame it on the ring either. He consistently showed throughout the story he had the "fixed" character to resist the ring's draw and fending off those who were drawn to it just being near it, let alone touching it......that is, until he did a 180 at the very end. That's not a characteristic that can be labeled predictable.
Saruman was presented as an ally of Gandalf and the men of the West.....then mid-story....bada bing bada bang, it's revealed he's not the predictable character viewers were led to believe.
Samwise was introduced as afraid-of-his-own-shadow gardner who feared even leaving the shire, but as the story progressed, he turned out to be one of the strongest characters of LOTR. That's not a "fixed" or predictable character.
Throughout the trilogy, Grima is consistently shown as a deceitful worm who cowered in Saruman's presence. But when he gets a little backhand, bada bing bada bang, he's now a killer and snuffs out Saruman. For someone who acted so cowardly throughout the trilogy, that's hardly predictable he turns stone cold killer in an instant.
Treebeard consistently showed he had no interest in the wars of man and sticks to his guns all the way up to towards the end to not join the men of the west, but when a few of his flora pets are carved up, in a middle earth minute, the Ents are leveling Eisengard.
Point is, I don't think it's entirely justifiable to corner LOTR characters as fixed and predictable, as the examples above prove otherwise. Now one can argue certain circumstances and events caused those changes in character. But then that could be said about GOT characters also.
Well...except Dany of episode 5. LOL! Regardless, any change in a GOT character was for the most part not some random out of blue unpredictable turn. Circumstances or events led to most of those GOT character turns.......just like LOTR.
Quote from: The Old One on May 22, 2019, 04:45:44 AM
Spoiler
No purchase of a unreleased product sends more of a message, than burning one you already bought.
Understood, but that wasn't even the point - the point wasn't diminishing their sales by refusing to buy their product. The point was literary fan's anger for Martin was so fierce
they destroyed product that they already purchased. But no GOT fans declaring the destruction of their disc collection over season 8 that I've seen. I don't know how I can explain it any different to you again.
