Favourite Alien Movie?

[BlueMarsalis79]

1. Alien 1979 will likely never ever be beaten.

2. Did you watch to the end of the video? Nothing good about that project.

3. Earth War, Colonial Marines, William Gibson's Alien³ novel, comic and audio drama. You have a lot of alternate sequels to Aliens actually.

(People keep trying to outdo the real sequel, they can not in my opinion, hence the prevalence of them existing. They can not accept we got the best possible outcome already in film form.)

4. I only began to exist in 1997 so can not speak to the reception in 1992 in America, but I do know that Alien³ made more in Europe than Aliens or Alien.

[gold]

"Here's yet another bunch of people, led by a female brunette, getting eaten"^TM

Like badly copied Chinese car designs that try and copy BMW and Mercedes, the brunette actresses on Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus are even cast to LOOK like Sigourney Weaver.

Noomi Rapace's hair in Prometheus is red. Also, neither her nor Katherine Waterston look anything like Sigourney Weaver.

1. Alien 1979 will likely never ever be beaten.

This thread poll says Alien was beaten by Aliens by nearly a factor of 2.

2. Did you watch to the end of the video? Nothing good about that project.

That's your opinion. Mine is different.

3. Earth War, Colonial Marines, William Gibson's Alien³ novel, comic and audio drama. You have a lot of alternate sequels to Aliens actually.

I meant a movie/videogame moving visual media.


4. I only began to exist in 1997 so can not speak to the reception in 1992 in America, but I do know that Alien³ made more in Europe than Aliens or Alien.

I am European. I speak in terms of European viewers back in 1992. Again, put yourself in the time period. You've seen Alien and Aliens, and nothing else existed. Where did you think and hope it would go? The comics people, while being very out there, had a good artistic idea. In any case, more than more endless metal corridors of people getting eaten.

[Slutty Badger]

Yes, casting actual Ellen Ripley as opposed to a brunette Hollywood clone.

Again, Noomi Rapace's hair in Prometheus is red, not brunette.

Also, both Ripley and Daniels carry guns because they want to survive against an alien creature.

[BlueMarsalis79]

I consider Shaw very much their own character, no matter how you felt about their characterisation. 

Daniels, definitely intentionally a Ripley like, because the film subverts that through David winning.

[BigDaddyJohn]

I was all for Blomkamp making his Alien 5... Until recently 

Seriously the news shared by Mike convinced me otherwise.

[SiL]

@gold

Alien3 is a true sequel to Aliens. It follows on directly from it and builds on the story.

It's had many fans since 1992.

We know from Resurrection that fans don't take well to comic bookish versions of Alien stories, and that's exactly what Blomkamp's would be. Queen themed body suits, hybrids to make Kenner blush - it's all a bit silly.

[Kradan]

Daniels, definitely intentionally a Ripley like, because the film subverts that through David winning.

Can you name any weapon from A3, Res, Prometheus or Covenant

Lacrima 99 Shockrifle, Draco Double Burner, ES-4 Electrostatic Pistol, ES-7 Supernova Electrostatic Shockgun, Flammenwerfer 3 Heavy Incineration Unit, and the RMC F903WE Automatic Assault Rifle.

[BigDaddyJohn]

I always loved Resurrection's weapons. I would have loved for the movie to develop it a bit more.

[aliens13]

You ought to watch this gold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mskxKtU0ZHQ

@SiL: Yes, casting actual Ellen Ripley as opposed to a brunette Hollywood clone.


@BlueMarsalis79: Thank you so much for that link. What an awesome video.

Neil Blomkamp is me.

It's hard to explain the cognitive dissonance that I sometimes feel when discussing the franchise with people. But for people like me (of my age) who saw these movies as they were released to cinemas there was a -tremendous- let down that happened in 1992. Alien (Scott) was 1 Alien, Aliens (Cameron) was multiple Aliens. We all had such great hopes for A3.

It was going to be all out war on Earth? A venture to the Aliens home planet? More lore? Was the Xenomorph a manifestation of a realm beyond the universe where raw emotions with no logic reigned? Was that why the sexual Giger shapes were so repulsive and attractive at the same time? Why humans couldn't really "place" them?

No, Hicks dead, little Newt dead, all in the opening minute. Ripley comitting suicide at the end.

What a let down.

I know for a fact that this is what we all felt back in 1992.

Blompkamp felt exactly the same thing (there were so many of us). It seems like he really understood where this franchise had needed to go after Aliens. Where it wanted to go.

Say what you like but Blomkamps Alien 5 would haven been an EVENT. The entire fanbase would have looked foreward to it years in advance (and we did).

All we have now of that parallel timeline sequel to Aliens is the 2013 Aliens: Colonial Marines game. Which (at least on PC with TemplarGFX) scratches the itch somewhat.

But man would Blomkamps Alien have been special.

Think about it, it would have been different but- a true sequel to Aliens. Alien 3 was different (way different to what we expected) and has its fans. Blomkamps A5 would have had its fans for decades to come.

In all honesty I think in that parallel dimension, internet polls would be divided between Aliens 1986 and Blomkamps A5 being the single best movie in the franchise.

In all honesty I think that the better that could ever happen is this Blomkamp dumb crap getting cancelled. Alien 3 did the best to finish the trilogy, I don't buy the Ripley-Hicks-Newt happy family BS. This is the Alien franchise, it's brutal, unfair, doesn't forgive anyone

[Slutty Badger]

I always loved Resurrection's weapons. I would have loved fot the movie to developped it a bit more.

Well, hopefully we'll get that in Alien: Uncivil War.

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I always loved Resurrection's weapons. I would have loved fot the movie to developped it a bit more.

Do you like this:



More than this?:



There is a reason the M41A (lower picture) is an icon of SciFi history and the upper picture from Resurrection was forgotten.

In terms of aesthetics the M41's design is based on phi or the Golden Ratio, 0.618. The horizontal position of the mag in relation to the shroud (Golden Ratio), the 60 degree angles of the shroud and mag, the vertical height of the mag in relation to the upper receiver and shroud handle (Golden Ratio), the length of the carry handle shroud in relation to the overall length of the whole weapon (Golden Ratio). How the front of the shroud ends at the rear of the pump handle. How the metal "tab" holding the shrouds together is at 2/3ds of the triangular area it lies in (above and forward of the magazine). Many more examples.

It was a literal work of art. The bright red digital display being icing on the cake adding a third dimension to the weapon. I appreciate these things because design and ratios is my work.

People gravitated towards the M41-A because of this natural aesthetic. There is a reason it has been manufactured in mass produced items you can buy (HCG, Snow Wolf, Matrix Airsoft, NERF), while bar you me and a handful of others people have never even heard of the gun in the upper picture, which doesn't even look like it has a usable handle. It looks (artistically and aesthetically like it was thrown together) like a crowbar. Sure it might be functional in universe like a crowbar or screw driver is, but as a viewer appreciating aesthetics, there is nothing to appreciate.

We can't deny that there is a natural very very well thought out aesthetic to the M41-A and the other weapons are forgotten. Certainly not adored enough to be mass produced by third party companies.

This thread (the poll) confirms that almost twice as many people prefer Aliens (the lower picture) as the next best movie (Alien 1) for very well thought out reasons. It was a work of art.

[[cancerblack]]

More than this?

Nobody said that you mong, he said he liked them well enough.

[BigDaddyJohn]

I like the pulse rifle more, but I really like both.

[Slutty Badger]

This thread (the poll) confirms that almost twice as many people prefer Aliens (the lower picture) as the next best movie (Alien 1) for very well thought out reasons. It was a work of art.

Are you suggesting people mainly like Aliens for the weapons?

Because I can think of a buttload of better reasons.

[[cancerblack]]

Are you suggesting people mainly like Aliens for the weapons?

Because I can think of a buttload of better reasons.

Think he just wants to spit bad takes then ignore rebuttals (note the sig text).