Joker Origin

[Samhain13]

I'm interested.

[DarthJoker45]

Reviews are now coming in.

https://deadline.com/video/joker-review-joaquin-phoenix-robert-de-niro-dc-comics-venice-film-festival/?fbclid=IwAR35YKAHVin9LZTFDPxPGz5AoKUMTQK2GUFBz6YT8QDejnVO4_I3k4goMXE

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/31/joker-review-twisted-tour-de-force-joaquin-phoenix

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/08/joker-review-joaquin-phoenix-1202170236/

https://io9.gizmodo.com/joker-is-powerful-confused-and-provocative-just-like-1837667573

[Immortan Jonesy]

The first reactions have surfaced online.

https://twitter.com/jamesjonesfilm/status/1167720486689824768

https://twitter.com/firstshowing/status/1167721654656655362

https://twitter.com/oliviersarbil/status/1167722820803223554

https://twitter.com/IntFilmCritique/status/1167734820799049728

Indeed. The first reactions and reviews are positive so far.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1167883878964420609

https://twitter.com/ElsaKeslassy/status/1167883087276957705

https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1167857837621465093



https://twitter.com/GermainLussier/status/1167848333362118656

https://twitter.com/rotovisor/status/1167726573153333249

https://twitter.com/JakLukeSharp/status/1167726950909128704

https://twitter.com/OasisAwais/status/1167763442079584256

https://twitter.com/rdfolta/status/1167722951090802688

[KiramidHead]

It's still over a month away. The wait is gonna suck.

[Huggs]

Behold, the power of Joaquin.

[SM]

The Guardian gave it 5 stars

[OmegaZilla]

Behold, the power of Joaquin.

behold the power of a terrified studio actually resorting to make a competent film only in the wake of an absolute lack of proper organization and exploitation of a property

[D88M]

Behold, the power of Joaquin.

behold the power of a terrified studio actually resorting to make a competent film only in the wake of an absolute lack of proper organization and exploitation of a property

Not really, they are desperately throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. If its actually competent is because a random coincidence and nothing else. They had a good if rushed plan at the start, it was when they wanted to do a 180 all of the sudden that they begin screwing everything up.

So, the movie sounds exactly like what i predicted long time ago: a decent, generic random drama about a guy turning insane that relies on brand recognition to get noticed and success, but has actually literally zero to do with anything Joker related and they just put that name and others in the movie because otherwise they would have never let the director make a movie like this nowadays and nobody would talk about the movie anyway. I doubt that beyond Phoenix performance there is much of value here, i pass seeing it on theaters.

[Voodoo Magic]

Some of the negative reviews seem a bit scathing.

When the film and reviews go wide it might be one of those love it or hate it films with not many people found in between.

As social commentary, Joker is pernicious garbage.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/joker-movie-review-2019

Phillips may want us to think he's giving us a movie all about the emptiness of our culture, but really, he's just offering a prime example of it.

https://time.com/5666055/venice-joker-review-joaquin-phoenix-not-funny/

[Huggs]

The Ebert review lost me immediately with its opening diatribe against success and wealth.

[Jango1201]

The Ebert review lost me immediately with its opening diatribe against success and wealth.

He also can't write to save his life.

[PredBabe]

So ready for this movie.
I haven't read any of the comics so I really don't have much to comment in terms of the original source material. But I was definitely one of those who gushed over Ledger's Joker and I'm excited to see them go back to a more dark psychological version of the character. I get the concerns though of unveiling his origins (which ultimately might seem like a generic/too realistic story for such an iconic villain) and glorifying a psychopath.

[Huggs]

I think it's only glorifying if someone views his actions as a positive thing. And anyone who would, likely would've anyway.

[PredBabe]

I think it's only glorifying if someone views his actions as a positive thing. And anyone who would, likely would've anyway.

Very true. I think most of us are only going to be rooting against the broken and corrupt society that created the monster more than anything else.

[Samhain13]

Judging by the reaction of the people that wrote those negative reviews the studio might have actually done things well this time.

Not really a fan of DC, Batman, super heroes in general, but I always thought the Joker was an interesting villain and as it was shown with Ledger's version even if you recreate the character with an alternative version it can still work. They seem to trying to put that type of effort into the character again, instead of the waste that he was on Suicide Squad. Heck I might be wrong and they might screw up the character, but I'm willing to risk my money and go watch on the theater, something that I haven't been willing to do with other series.