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What did you think of Alien Covenant?

Loved it. (5/5)
97 (22%)
Good, it was enjoyable. (4/5)
142 (32.3%)
It was okay. (3/5)
85 (19.3%)
Could have been better. (2/5)
58 (13.2%)
Didn't like it. (1/5)
29 (6.6%)
Hated it! (0/5)
29 (6.6%)

Total Members Voted: 435

Author Topic: Alien Covenant Fan Reviews  (Read 191589 times)

City Hunter Yautja
Jul 08, 2021, 10:28:25 PM
Reply #1815 on: Jul 08, 2021, 10:28:25 PM
You can say whatever you want about David/Walter twist being far too predictable but  for me David being the creator of Alien was a real twist of the movie I haven't seen coming

It does have a poetic flow, Weyland creates David, David creates the Xenomorph. Weyland seeks immortality, David seeks a different kind of mortality, a new life form which ironically is hostile to all life either directly killing it or making it a host that causes death. That David is like Shiva the Destroyer, and Weyland like Ahura Mazda The Creator is very intriguing.


Kradan
Jul 08, 2021, 10:39:34 PM
Reply #1816 on: Jul 08, 2021, 10:39:34 PM



Evanus
Jul 09, 2021, 02:32:51 PM
Reply #1818 on: Jul 09, 2021, 02:32:51 PM
The Neomorphs were proper creepy. Other than that I didn't think it was very scary, but it's still good.


Kradan
Jul 09, 2021, 04:58:54 PM
Reply #1819 on: Jul 09, 2021, 04:58:54 PM
Yeah, I don't really consider Covenant to be a proper horror movie (which is a shame 'cause I really hoped it would've been) in a traditional sense. I watch it more for an aesthetic pleasure and David's shenanigans. Implications of what that batshit insane android was doing these 10 years are genuinely terrifying to me though

I guess, there's some horror to be had in Covenant but unfortunately the titular creature isn't the source of it

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Immortan Jonesy
Jul 10, 2021, 02:20:00 AM
Reply #1820 on: Jul 10, 2021, 02:20:00 AM
I'm not saying that Covenant is the best example of this, but I don't think it's a sin for gothic horror not to be scary. I see it as something aesthetically appealing and poetic rather than the usual spockiness and jump scares from traditional horror.



You can say whatever you want about David/Walter twist being far too predictable but  for me David being the creator of Alien was a real twist of the movie I haven't seen coming

It does have a poetic flow, Weyland creates David, David creates the Xenomorph. Weyland seeks immortality, David seeks a different kind of mortality, a new life form which ironically is hostile to all life either directly killing it or making it a host that causes death. That David is like Shiva the Destroyer, and Weyland like Ahura Mazda The Creator is very intriguing.

Prometheus rhymes with AVP, sometimes.


Nightmare Asylum
Jul 10, 2021, 02:37:12 AM
Reply #1821 on: Jul 10, 2021, 02:37:12 AM
I'm not saying that Covenant is the best example of this, but I don't think it's a sin for gothic horror not to be scary. I see it as something aesthetically appealing and poetic rather than the usual spockiness and jump scares from traditional horror.

Not unlike Guillermo del Toro's sentiments on viewing Crimson Peak as a "Gothic Romance" rather than a "Gothic Horror."


City Hunter Yautja
Jul 10, 2021, 04:30:46 AM
Reply #1822 on: Jul 10, 2021, 04:30:46 AM
The Neomorphs were proper creepy. Other than that I didn't think it was very scary, but it's still good.

Exactly, when the Neomorph tore out of its hist in the med bay, I was horrified. It turned my stomach. I am rather empathic, so when the Neomorph tore out of its hist I thought of myself and it happening to me and that have me psychological scare. Like in Jaws, thinking about it happening to you amps the fear factor.


Immortan Jonesy
Jul 12, 2021, 12:07:41 AM
Reply #1823 on: Jul 12, 2021, 12:07:41 AM
I'm not saying that Covenant is the best example of this, but I don't think it's a sin for gothic horror not to be scary. I see it as something aesthetically appealing and poetic rather than the usual spockiness and jump scares from traditional horror.

Not unlike Guillermo del Toro's sentiments on viewing Crimson Peak as a "Gothic Romance" rather than a "Gothic Horror."

I thought that way when I saw Mike Flanagan's horror anthology on Netflixt. ;D

Anyway, could we agree that we have a group of unfortunate individuals being invited by a mysterious host to take refuge in a "dark mansion / castle" in Covenant? The kind of place where dark secrets are hidden. :laugh:


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City Hunter Yautja
Jul 12, 2021, 12:29:59 AM
Reply #1824 on: Jul 12, 2021, 12:29:59 AM
I'm not saying that Covenant is the best example of this, but I don't think it's a sin for gothic horror not to be scary. I see it as something aesthetically appealing and poetic rather than the usual spockiness and jump scares from traditional horror.

Not unlike Guillermo del Toro's sentiments on viewing Crimson Peak as a "Gothic Romance" rather than a "Gothic Horror."

Think that way when I saw Mike Flanagan's horror anthology on Netflixt. ;D

Anyway, could we agree that we have a group of unfortunate individuals being invited by a mysterious host to take refuge in a "dark mansion / castle" in Covenant? The kind of place where dark secrets are hidden. :laugh:



Great parallel! I never considered Covenant a gothic tale.



Immortan Jonesy
Jul 12, 2021, 01:52:55 AM
Reply #1826 on: Jul 12, 2021, 01:52:55 AM
I'm not saying that Covenant is the best example of this, but I don't think it's a sin for gothic horror not to be scary. I see it as something aesthetically appealing and poetic rather than the usual spockiness and jump scares from traditional horror.

Not unlike Guillermo del Toro's sentiments on viewing Crimson Peak as a "Gothic Romance" rather than a "Gothic Horror."

Think that way when I saw Mike Flanagan's horror anthology on Netflixt. ;D

Anyway, could we agree that we have a group of unfortunate individuals being invited by a mysterious host to take refuge in a "dark mansion / castle" in Covenant? The kind of place where dark secrets are hidden. :laugh:



Great parallel! I never considered Covenant a gothic tale.


From John Milton's Paradise Lost to Mary Shelley's Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus

~ Better to Reign in Hell Than Serve in Heaven ~


"Alienation:

Frankenstein suggests that social alienation is both the primary cause of evil and the punishment for it. The Monster explicitly says that his alienation from mankind has caused him to become a murderer: “My protectors had departed, and had broken the only link that held me to the world. For the first time the feelings of revenge and hatred filled my bosom.” His murders, however, only increase his alienation".

In addition to a lot of references to paintings by artists such as William Blake or Arnold Böcklin.








Muthur9000's Studio Yutani website was remarkably good at analyzing this movie.



Edit ~ TQ is remarkably good at analyzing this movie as well, as [cb] has pointed out.

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Nightmare Asylum
Jul 12, 2021, 03:34:15 AM
Reply #1828 on: Jul 12, 2021, 03:34:15 AM
"Alien: Paradise Lost" is even what Ridley was calling the film in interviews, before it was officially unveiled as Alien: Covenant.


City Hunter Yautja
Jul 12, 2021, 05:21:38 AM
Reply #1829 on: Jul 12, 2021, 05:21:38 AM
"Alien: Paradise Lost" is even what Ridley was calling the film in interviews, before it was officially unveiled as Alien: Covenant.

I wish he had kept the original title. Call the ship Paradise, which makes more sense for colonist ship seeking to make a better world.


 

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