Peter Weyland video ! ^^

[Game_Over_Man]

Jon Spaihts on Twitter says:

We tried not to violate canon wherever possible; but the canon's not completely coherent and in the end story wins.

This is soooo cryptic - he's basically saying the canon as it stands makes no sense, so they're relating to the bits that do and dumping everything else. But what bits? lol

I'd like to think Ridley has scrapped everything post Alien lol...at very least he'll relate to Aliens, but I'd really like to see the Queen concept dumped. I like the creature being more biomechanical and otherworldly rather than being a descendant of our Earths mighty ants ...it needs to be what the original title says - Alien!

[Michael Harper]

This looks like it's been shot for 3D. So, we may perhaps see this in the film in some fashion. It may even open the film - does anybody remember the opening to Moon, which was like an advertisement which ended with the Lunar Industries logo. Perhaps they might do something similar here. I'd be happy if this opened the film. I think it would give you a sense of the grandness of what's to come for the rest of the film! Perhaps a little longer. And, we may see a little bit more of Peter Weyland during the production development of the Prometheus.

[180924609]

Does this mean that Guy Pearce is not actually in the movie Prometheus at all then?! Surely he would be a *very* old man if he was in Prometheus, seeing as how this video clip is supposed to be set in 2023?

Is this the beginning of another mystery?!

[Glaive]

Is it just me, or is he using John Hurt's voice inflections?

Does this mean that Guy Pearce is not actually in the movie Prometheus at all then?! Surely he would be a *very* old man if he was in Prometheus, seeing as how this video clip is supposed to be set in 2023?

Is this the beginning of another mystery?!

He DID mentiom nano-tech, so maybe aging can be 'slowed'...

[Never say no to Panda!]

Sorry- I am not very good with image cropping and such the like, hoping someone with more skills could help. Have a look at his face at about 1 min. It appears that some writing appears on his face that is similar to that seen on the giant head and elsewhere. As I said in my earlier post there is sometihng hidden in this. Mailed the moderators to help decode it but can anyone else help. I have attached the image below. Thanks

Nope

[CyberDemon13]

Is it just me, or is he using John Hurt's voice inflections?

YES!!!

[SiL]

Less John Hurt, more Hugo Weaving, methinks.

[DJ Pu$$yface]

Mmm, that retcon tastes delicious.

Yessss.

Thank you Ridley Scott!

AVP can go back to the darkest pits of hell where it belongs

I totally see Lance Henrikson.

[Xenomrph]

Jon Spaihts on Twitter says:

We tried not to violate canon wherever possible; but the canon's not completely coherent and in the end story wins.

This is soooo cryptic - he's basically saying the canon as it stands makes no sense, so they're relating to the bits that do and dumping everything else. But what bits? lol

I'd like to think Ridley has scrapped everything post Alien lol...at very least he'll relate to Aliens, but I'd really like to see the Queen concept dumped. I like the creature being more biomechanical and otherworldly rather than being a descendant of our Earths mighty ants ...it needs to be what the original title says - Alien!

If he starts dumping the sequels (no matter what he or other people think of them) it'll just make it seem like Prometheus is in its own little universe with 'Alien', while all the other movies (and 'AvP', etc) are still part of the "main" universe.

It's like 'Casino Royale'. It dumped all the prior Bond movies and started over, but that doesn't mean all those old Bond movies "aren't canon". It meant Casino Royale is in its own little timeline.

[RidgeTop]

With many here celebrating that this "wipes away" the canon of the AVP films, let me share my thoughts. No official canon is truly gone until the franchise owners say so (FOX). As is evident with the Star Trek reboot, creating a canon contradiction does not eliminate canon, it creates an alternate canon. For example: there are multiple, contradicting plot lines in the Terminator franchise. And even though the new Batman films are extremely popular, they do not destroy the canon of the older films, they simply create alternate canon. The point could be made that since the filmmakers have stated that Prometheus should not be regarded as an Alien film, that it's doing its own thing, that AVP would be part of the "traditional" canon, a true Alien film, whereas Prometheus would essentially be a reboot or spiritual successor to Alien. This would create an alternate "Prometheus" canon in which the other films are only taken into account in the lightest sense. On the other hand, you could argue that AVP started its own new alternate canon that was never meant to be considered part of the Alien franchise, and that Prometheus is the true Alien film.

Considering the expansive franchise that Alien is, there is so much material with the primary films and EU, I think it's fair to say that canon will be slightly different depending on what stories of the franchise a fan prefers. Many Alien fans don't like to consider Aliens canon even though officially speaking it is. The same is true for the AVP films, even if Prometheus has such a contradiction with the AVP films to make them completely incompatible, that does not destroy the canon of the AVP films, the contradiction simply creates an alternate canon. AVP is still official canon, just a different canon. You can never please all of the fans, and many here, even if they are not outspoken about it, are fans of the AVP films. Debate on which films are better or more relevant to the franchise is to be expected, but I'd like to suggest not alienating (pun intended) fans of the AVP films. This is an AVP site after all.

[CyberDemon13]

Is it just me, or is he using John Hurt's voice inflections?

YES!!!

Less John Hurt, more Hugo Weaving, methinks.

YES!!!

[Master]

There were biger canon issues earlier.

Same ws with Rodriguez saying P2 is non cannon etc. Is it really? I don`t think so. Besides there was no single thing in this video excluding AvP and , at least for me, only films are canon. TBH we don`t really know if this is a part of the film what so ever.

[Xenomrph]

With many here celebrating that this "wipes away" the canon of the AVP films, let me share my thoughts. No official canon is truly gone until the franchise owners say so (FOX). As is evident with the Star Trek reboot, creating a canon contradiction does not eliminate canon, it creates an alternate canon. For example: there are multiple, contradicting plot lines in the Terminator franchise. And even though the new Batman films are extremely popular, they do not destroy the canon of the older films, they simply create alternate canon. The point could be made that since the filmmakers have stated that Prometheus should not be regarded as an Alien film, that it's doing its own thing, that AVP would be part of the "traditional" canon, a true Alien film, whereas Prometheus would essentially be a reboot or spiritual successor to Alien. This would create an alternate "Prometheus" canon in which the other films are only taken into account in the lightest sense. On the other hand, you could argue that AVP started its own new alternate canon that was never meant to be considered part of the Alien franchise, and that Prometheus is the true Alien film.

Considering the expansive franchise that Alien is, there is so much material with the primary films and EU, I think it's fair to say that canon will be slightly different depending on what stories of the franchise a fan prefers. Many Alien fans don't like to consider Aliens canon even though officially speaking it is. The same is true for the AVP films, even if Prometheus has such a contradiction with the AVP films to make them completely incompatible, that does not destroy the canon of the AVP films, the contradiction simply creates an alternate canon. AVP is still official canon, just a different canon. You can never please all of the fans, and many here, even if they are not outspoken about it, are fans of the AVP films. Debate on which films are better or more relevant to the franchise is to be expected, but I'd like to suggest not alienating (pun intended) fans of the AVP films. This is an AVP site after all.

Well said.

Also for the record 'AvP' was always intended to be part of the Alien AND Predator "canon" (and link them in movie form), and FOX has continually supported this idea.

Frankly we'll have to wait and see how Prometheus plays out. Maybe this viral marketing campaign will name-drop Charles Weyland or something.

[Game_Over_Man]

There were biger canon issues earlier.

Same ws with Rodriguez saying P2 is non cannon etc. Is it really? I don`t think so. Besides there was no single thing in this video excluding AvP and , at least for me, only films are canon. TBH we don`t really know if this is a part of the film what so ever.

I'm sure they've stated it's not part of the film, just an elaborate set up - which is brilliant. It's the beginning...of the end

Anyone latch onto the lines; "you know I will for nothing short of greatness, or I will die trying..." hmmmm I wonder if there's a little irony in there?

[RagingDragon]

Well said.

Also for the record 'AvP' was always intended to be part of the Alien AND Predator "canon" (and link them in movie form), and FOX has continually supported this idea.

Frankly we'll have to wait and see how Prometheus plays out. Maybe this viral marketing campaign will name-drop Charles Weyland or something.

Here's hoping!



It was a nice post, Ridge Top, but I disagree with one of your early statements about canon not being gone until Fox says so.  They haven't said jack about canon through so many contradictions, the clear and only option left was for the fanbase to make up their own minds, which resulted in the wonderful constant canon mess we deal with.

What makes a fanbase thus treated suddenly have to hang on Fox ruling over another contradiction just because they're interested again and it looks like they won't have a cheap, crappy product like the AvP films?

Most fans were left to make up their own minds awhile back, and I would bet that's how it's going to stay.  They seem to have thrown out their canon-declaring credibility with the AvP bathwater.