Egg on Sulaco

Started by Darkness, Nov 01, 2006, 08:21:10 AM

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solace97

solace97

#4830
My problem with the Queen is that there's no way she snuck the egg on. That theory just needs to be dropped all together. She was chasing and fighting Ripley the entire time. She never crawled back to the cryo chambers and planted the egg and then crawled back under the dropship to surprise Ripley. And she definitely was not squeezing an egg between her legs as she chased Ripley up an elevator and off the planet and during a major battle.

As much comical fun as you could have with saying that the company snuck on and planted an egg while they were sleeping, it once again makes zero logical sense. Though the egg being onboard already makes zero logical sense. At that point you could just take control of the ship without diverting to Fury 161. Why waste the time? And if the company did sabotage the ship why would you divert it to another planet to being with? Why not divert it somewhere you can access the ship more quickly?

Now the ONE possibility I see here that makes sense is bishop. The problem is Bishops honesty throughout Aliens that makes this difficult to believe. He told them straight up about Burke, why would he have done that only to have hidden sabotaging the ship with an egg from them? And if he had done it I'm assuming it was done earlier in the film where he had time, but that means he probably would have confessed as he did when he told them Burke told him to keep the face huggers alive. HOWEVER, if you really want to make some lazy writing which is all Alien 3 and Alien R is, you can just say Bishop was forced to bring a egg onboard by Burke while the others were distracted. Bishop could have remotely controlled the dropship, maybe an electrical cart to extract the egg, and hide it temporarily. But it would totally go against the character arc Bishop had throughout Aliens and a brief moment in A3.

I might get a lot of resistance for this take but I liked how Aliens Colonial Marines the video game had Hicks wake up, kill that guy, and throw him in his cryo tube. That storyline was cool and an easy fix for one of the characters. But I also think it only fits in the sense of like a comic book or in this case video game.


[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#4831
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take

You will.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#4832
At no point in the film does Bishop have time to take an hours long trip to the Sulaco and back, and he certainly couldn't stash the egg after being ripped in half when they do arrive on ship. That theory has been gone over a 1000 times and it doesn't hold up even a little bit.

The truth is that there is no satisfactory explanation other than no one making the film cared about how or why the egg was there.


Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#4833
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take but I liked how Aliens Colonial Marines the video game had Hicks wake up, kill that guy, and throw him in his cryo tube.

"That guy" was Turk!  Show some respect! >:(

SM

SM

#4834
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 28, 2024, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take

You will.

And deserve it.


solace97

solace97

#4835
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 28, 2024, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take

You will.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 28, 2024, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take but I liked how Aliens Colonial Marines the video game had Hicks wake up, kill that guy, and throw him in his cryo tube.

"That guy" was Turk!  Show some respect! >:(
Quote from: SM on Mar 28, 2024, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 28, 2024, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 07:13:05 PMI might get a lot of resistance for this take

You will.

And deserve it.



Damn you all, HICKS is alive!


Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 28, 2024, 08:37:13 PMAt no point in the film does Bishop have time to take an hours long trip to the Sulaco and back, and he certainly couldn't stash the egg after being ripped in half when they do arrive on ship. That theory has been gone over a 1000 times and it doesn't hold up even a little bit.

The truth is that there is no satisfactory explanation other than no one making the film cared about how or why the egg was there.



An hours long trip? Did you see how fast they landed and departed LV 426?

426Buddy

426Buddy

#4836
Bishop literally states in the film that the flight time is 50 minutes one way...

I mean if you think you have a solid theory go ahead and wander through the dark halls of this thread and you will see it has been debunked many many times.

SM

SM

#4837
*taps the sign*

Shorter one just about Bishop coming out shortly.

solace97

solace97

#4838
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 28, 2024, 09:31:38 PMBishop literally states in the film that the flight time is 50 minutes one way...

I mean if you think you have a solid theory go ahead and wander through the dark halls of this thread and you will see it has been debunked many many times.

Lmao I never said that's my theory, I was responding to someone else's bullets on the previous page and said out of all the theories this is the only one that remotely could be wiggled enough to make sense. I don't agree with it I just think with all the possible theories that the person gave examples of this one could be used.

Regardless we have a ghost egg on the ship with no way of it being possible to get there other than writers magic, so all the theories are trash anyways.


Quote from: SM on Mar 28, 2024, 09:34:47 PM*taps the sign*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSuoAb9Lz4
Shorter one just about Bishop coming out shortly.

Nice video. I have to ask cause you're knowledge on the Alien universe is absolutely absurd (I mean that as a compliment) do you collaborate and use outside help from others or have you just been on a solo mission gathering this knowledge?

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#4839
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 03, 2023, 04:34:19 AMChatGPT has written it all out:

QuoteINT. SULACO HANGAR BAY - NIGHT

Ripley, inside the Power Loader exoskeleton, battles the furious Queen Alien. The Queen, having torn herself free from her egg sac, has a gaping wound in her abdomen, with her innards partially exposed.

As the intense fight continues, a microscopic, undeveloped egg is unknowingly dislodged from the Queen's abdominal cavity. It drops onto the grated floor, virtually invisible to the naked eye, appearing as nothing more than a tiny, harmless blob of slime.

INT. SULACO SUBFLOORING - CONTINUOUS

The minuscule, slimy egg slips through the grates and sticks to the subflooring beneath the hangar bay. There, hidden from sight, it slowly starts to congeal and take root. The resilient Xenomorph life form begins its development process, growing and expanding as it clings to the floor.

INT. SULACO HANGAR BAY - NIGHT

Ripley, still engaged in her life-or-death struggle with the Queen, manages to open the airlock. The vacuum of space sucks the Queen Alien out of the Sulaco, leaving Ripley victorious but completely unaware of the danger that remains hidden on the ship.

INT. SULACO SUBFLOORING - ONE WEEK LATER

The once-microscopic egg has grown to full size, pulsating with life. Unseen by the crew and still attached to the subflooring, the egg awaits its opportunity to unleash the next Xenomorph nightmare.

As the Sulaco continues its journey, the egg senses the presence of potential hosts nearby. It slowly opens, revealing the Facehugger within, poised to strike.

FADE OUT.

solace97

solace97

#4840
I admit that one makes the most sense and I just saw it in SMs video. But still how does a microscopic egg grow to that size without the ability of the queen to nurture it inside her egg sac. Thats like a human egg growing outside the human, it just wouldn't work and if it was the case why would the queen even need a sack to begin with. It's just as much of a stretch as the others. And where it would have fallen in between the grated floor we already see what it looks like because Newt is hiding down there.

Just more questions this poses

426Buddy

426Buddy

#4841
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 28, 2024, 09:31:38 PMBishop literally states in the film that the flight time is 50 minutes one way...

I mean if you think you have a solid theory go ahead and wander through the dark halls of this thread and you will see it has been debunked many many times.

Lmao I never said that's my theory, I was responding to someone else's bullets on the previous page and said out of all the theories this is the only one that remotely could be wiggled enough to make sense. I don't agree with it I just think with all the possible theories that the person gave examples of this one could be used.

I didnt say it was your theory either... I said if you think you have a solid theory, refer to this enormous thread and you'll see its been discussed and shot down.

... and no the "Bishop did it" theory can't be "wiggled" enough to make sense and of those examples it also can't be used.

QuoteRegardless we have a ghost egg on the ship with no way of it being possible to get there other than writers magic, so all the theories are trash

Thats the spirit

I actually don't mind the queen goo theory but its born from the work of ardent fans and not the film.

solace97

solace97

#4842
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 28, 2024, 11:07:53 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 28, 2024, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 28, 2024, 09:31:38 PMBishop literally states in the film that the flight time is 50 minutes one way...

I mean if you think you have a solid theory go ahead and wander through the dark halls of this thread and you will see it has been debunked many many times.

Lmao I never said that's my theory, I was responding to someone else's bullets on the previous page and said out of all the theories this is the only one that remotely could be wiggled enough to make sense. I don't agree with it I just think with all the possible theories that the person gave examples of this one could be used.

I didnt say it was your theory either... I said if you think you have a solid theory, refer to this enormous thread and you'll see its been discussed and shot down.

... and no the "Bishop did it" theory can't be "wiggled" enough to make sense and of those examples it also can't be used.

QuoteRegardless we have a ghost egg on the ship with no way of it being possible to get there other than writers magic, so all the theories are trash

Thats the spirit

I actually don't mind the queen goo theory but its born from the work of ardent fans and not the film.


Nothing about Alien 3 or Alien R can be wiggled to make enough sense. The queen microscopic egg theory is just as outlandish as the rest and makes no sense

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#4843
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 12, 2012, 04:41:51 AMWell, the egg sac would allow for the rapid production of fully functional eggs.  This method would be much slower.  Theoretically, a soldier alien could produce eggs the same way.

SiL

SiL

#4844
Microscopic egg doodad plus host = egg morphing

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