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[Hubbs]

So Walmart REFUSES to make a cake with the Confederate flag on it, but WILL make a cake with the ISIS flag on it! LOL!

What does that say??

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/06/29/walmart-apologizes-making-isis-flag-cake-after-refusing-make-confederate-flag-cake

It means that nobody has made a request for an "ISIS cake" until now.

And yet, they were happy to do so, but not a Confederate cake. Perfect example of when its time to jump off the bandwagon and stop being mindless sheep.

This is how reform happens. When the masses are the ones trying to make a difference, it happens.

Yea but the masses can be completely wrong too. Public opinion is usually insane.

You don't need to tell me... look at the religious resistence to the Supreme Court right now... This is why I wish Obama had the backbone that Kennedy did.


What happened when George Wallace refused blacks to attend public school? Kennedy sent the national guard to escort them. I'm sure people were screaming about the tyranny of the government then too

Well to be honest, I think a national democratic vote for same sex marriage would have been the way to go, like Ireland did. That's one reason why so many are frustrated over the decision, because it was a decision made by a small group of people and the public didn't get a say. Then you have many companies AND the White House showing the flag colours, which is not right really, they should remain neutral. Another reason why many are annoyed because they feel this new law is being enforced upon them (without a vote or say). I'm surprised how badly the US has handled the whole situation really, politically speaking that is. Its not a bad decision and I have nothing against it personally, but they have completely ignored the masses that don't agree. Both sides have the right to their opinions but you can't completely cut off one side in favour of the other, bad leadership.

The whole thing may well backfire too, with the elections coming up next year the Republicans may well win hands down over this decision. There will be huge sways of people in the southern states (possibly many in the black communities) that will not agree with this for their religious reasons, and America has a lot of religious people! Democrats may well have shot themselves in the foot.

[Gate]

Give me a break, there are more Christians in North Africa than the entirety or North America.


If the Supreme Court is such a awful, tyrannical group of people then why did people stand for the Civil Rights and Due Process movements, huh? Are you suggesting the Founding Fathers f**ked up? Because I won't.

You know what? The majority can be wrong sometimes, and the rest of the world + half of our country knows it. While Russia and the rest of the Anti-gay countries arrest and murder those who aren't heterosexual, the USA can now be a place of life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness for refugees. Except the part where Europe and Canada have already had it.

If the republicans are that mad, let them secede again. I'm sure we'll let those Dixie Boys know to mind their Uncle Sam yet again.

[Deathbearer]

Oh no, there won't be any secession. You're f**king stuck with us now, and we're gonna make you regret every minute of it. Every. Minute. Now excuse me while I go proceed to do stereotypical Southern things like drink sweet tea and shoot my gun.

Good day, sir.

[whiterabbit]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/01/media/dukes-of-hazzard-tv-land/index.html

I don't see the problem. The show is basically mocking the flag and showing what idiots are like that put it on their cars.

[Hubbs]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/01/media/dukes-of-hazzard-tv-land/index.html

I don't see the problem. The show is basically mocking the flag and showing what idiots are like that put it on their cars.

Beat me to it...
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

I think its a bit worrying really, if you take this kids show of a channel because it has the Confed flag in it, what's next?? Will movies be next? where does it end?

I don't think the show mocked people, I think it was done simply because it looked cool for the time, which it did. Most of us kids in the UK didn't even know what the flag was about, we all just thought it looked good

Give me a break, there are more Christians in North Africa than the entirety or North America.

If the Supreme Court is such a awful, tyrannical group of people then why did people stand for the Civil Rights and Due Process movements, huh? Are you suggesting the Founding Fathers f**ked up? Because I won't.

You know what? The majority can be wrong sometimes, and the rest of the world + half of our country knows it. While Russia and the rest of the Anti-gay countries arrest and murder those who aren't heterosexual, the USA can now be a place of life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness for refugees. Except the part where Europe and Canada have already had it.

If the republicans are that mad, let them secede again. I'm sure we'll let those Dixie Boys know to mind their Uncle Sam yet again.

Calm down sheesh! I have nothing against the decision, I'm just saying I think it would have been better to have a national vote on it, like Ireland did. Then everyone gets a say, a vote, and no one can moan at the outcome.

I'm also just saying that there is a strong possibility that many of the religious folk in the US may well swing to the Republicans because of this decision.

[Gate]

Oh no, there won't be any secession. You're f**king stuck with us now, and we're gonna make you regret every minute of it. Every. Minute. Now excuse me while I go proceed to do stereotypical Southern things like drink sweet tea and shoot my gun.

Good day, sir.

Yehawwww!

[Uncanny Antman]

Then you have many companies AND the White House showing the flag colours, which is not right really, they should remain neutral.

Why?  They don't remain neutral about other things, why this?

Another reason why many are annoyed because they feel this new law is being enforced upon them

It is.  Just like every other law.  They'll just have to get used to it.

Both sides have the right to their opinions but you can't completely cut off one side in favour of the other

Sure you can.  Slavery sucks, so they decided to stop it even though a lot of people were all, "But I like slavery!"

Democrats may well have shot themselves in the foot.

If they did, then at least they did it for the right reasons.  There's few more cowardly than a politician who does the wrong thing just so that they can stay in office.

better to have a national vote on it, like Ireland did. Then everyone gets a say, a vote, and no one can moan at the outcome.

Like the vote for President?  Where no one in the country moans about the outcome afterwards?

[Hubbs]

Then you have many companies AND the White House showing the flag colours, which is not right really, they should remain neutral.

Why?  They don't remain neutral about other things, why this?

Another reason why many are annoyed because they feel this new law is being enforced upon them

It is.  Just like every other law.  They'll just have to get used to it.

Both sides have the right to their opinions but you can't completely cut off one side in favour of the other

Sure you can.  Slavery sucks, so they decided to stop it even though a lot of people were all, "But I like slavery!"

Democrats may well have shot themselves in the foot.

If they did, then at least they did it for the right reasons.  There's few more cowardly than a politician who does the wrong thing just so that they can stay in office.

better to have a national vote on it, like Ireland did. Then everyone gets a say, a vote, and no one can moan at the outcome.

Like the vote for President?  Where no one in the country moans about the outcome afterwards?

You know what I mean.

[whiterabbit]

Civil rights should not be up for public opinion. Which a national vote is. It should be granted based on the facts and truths. I'm still a little unnerved by Roberts comment that the constitution had nothing to do with the SCOTUS vote. It had a lot to do with it but did he mean that it would only happen if enough public opinion favor it? What the hell kind of decision making for a court is that?

[KiramidHead]

Also, it's not really practical to hold a national vote on a law that's being passed, given how large and populous the US is. That's why we elect politicians, so the people don't have to vote on every piece of political minutiae that crops up.

[Hubbs]

^ I fully understand what you're both saying and I agree, all I'm saying is Ireland did it (smaller country I know) and it seemed a completely fair way to go about it.

[Deathbearer]

Oh no, there won't be any secession. You're f**king stuck with us now, and we're gonna make you regret every minute of it. Every. Minute. Now excuse me while I go proceed to do stereotypical Southern things like drink sweet tea and shoot my gun.

Good day, sir.

Yehawwww!

I'm srs. I have like 8 guns brah. Which one should I shoot today?


them clouds can't survive Southern justice.

[Uncanny Antman]

^ I fully understand what you're both saying and I agree, all I'm saying is Ireland did it (smaller country I know) and it seemed a completely fair way to go about it.

The U.S. population is over sixty times bigger than Ireland.

Like KiramidHead said, you already had your fair vote.

[Hubbs]

^ I fully understand what you're both saying and I agree, all I'm saying is Ireland did it (smaller country I know) and it seemed a completely fair way to go about it.

The U.S. population is over sixty times bigger than Ireland.

Like KiramidHead said, you already had your fair vote.

Well not really, because there wasn't a vote and yes I already acknowledged that the US is of course bigger, but they do it for the Presidential elections so its not an impossible task. I don't really think that's an excuse, oh we can't allow people to vote because it would be too much work to arrange it. You could say the exact same thing over the Presidential elections, oh we'll just let the politicians decide because its easier than having a national vote.

[Uncanny Antman]

Well not really, because there wasn't a vote

Yes there was.  Heaps of them.  You might have even voted in some of them.  They put people into power, and those people made decisions.  Decisions that lead to this point.