Every Enemy and Non-Human Creatures in Aliens Fireteam Elite

Started by PAS Spinelli, Mar 03, 2021, 09:49:26 PM

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[cancerblack]

Quote from: Drukathi on Mar 09, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
tbh, never understood how the idea of Burster can work at all? Aliens ain't ants. They cannot reproduce freely. For each xeno, you need a victim. And very stupid, it seems to me, to have a creature that is born only to self-destroy. In addition, it can kill potential hosts. Moreover, other xeno: warriors, drones, runners are no less effective, but also are "reusable". And they can capture victims alive.

You're completely correct. Even in game terms, it makes more sense to just have some or all of the normal ones with highly pressurised circulatory systems so they splurt extra blood when injured and/or explode upon death.

PAS Spinelli

Yeah, suicidal aliens never worked well for me too, specially cuz the aliens themselves show self preservation

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Drukathi on Mar 09, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
tbh, never understood how the idea of Burster can work at all? Aliens ain't ants. They cannot reproduce freely. For each xeno, you need a victim. And very stupid, it seems to me, to have a creature that is born only to self-destroy. In addition, it can kill potential hosts. Moreover, other xeno: warriors, drones, runners are no less effective, but also are "reusable". And they can capture victims alive.

I love the Burster design personally, so I'm very interested in learning the "story" behind it.

But also, Ants are precisely one of the things that Ridley Scott wanted the Alien to be like.

[cancerblack]

It's still dumb as rocks for specialised suicide bomber sub-types to be a regular part of swarms, for a creature with such a convoluted reproductive cycle. Just have Warriors that go boom when you kill or cripple 'em.

PraetorianX101

I agree with what's been said, but technically the Burster isn't suicidal. Unlike the Boilers from Colonial Marines, it doesn't attempt to manually self-destruct. It behaves just like most other Aliens and attempts to attack its prey with its claws. The added function of exploding is just there to serve as one last **** you to whoever killed it.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: PraetorianX101 on Mar 09, 2021, 09:23:19 PM
I agree with what's been said, but technically the Burster isn't suicidal. Unlike the Boilers from Colonial Marines, it doesn't attempt to manually self-destruct. It behaves just like most other Aliens and attempts to attack its prey with its claws. The added function of exploding is just there to serve as one last **** you to whoever killed it.

I'll take your word on this one, in which case, it's just uninspired design for the model, there's other ways to signal this to the players than a giant glowing head.

BlueMarsalis79

Can't believe I completely agree with both Kailem and Drukathi!

Quote from: Kailem on Mar 09, 2021, 09:02:22 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 09, 2021, 08:34:02 PM
So Spitter from infected human and Burster from infected animal? Yeah I can dig that idea.

Well I remember one of the leaked details about the game from a while ago that was backed-up by the synopsis for the prequel novel, but may have since been changed, had....
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the Xenos escaping from a crashed space station that was doing "research" on them and they subsequently crossbred with the planet's local wildlife. So it's possible they could say they're all the results of experimentation crossed with different types of alien animals.
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Regardless, I think these designs look overall really good. The Drone and Runner look great, and yeah that Neomorph influence in the Spitter's design is a cool touch. I did initially mistake the Praetorian for the Spitter due to the bright glowing acidy bits on him. Not sure why they included that particular design element there. Unless it actually spits or explodes it seems unnecessary. And though the separation between the now-named Prowler's mouth and dome makes the mouth look a bit weird, I still really like the segmented head and its colours.


Quote from: Drukathi on Mar 09, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
tbh, never understood how the idea of Burster can work at all? Aliens ain't ants. They cannot reproduce freely. For each xeno, you need a victim. And very stupid, it seems to me, to have a creature that is born only to self-destroy. In addition, it can kill potential hosts. Moreover, other xeno: warriors, drones, runners are no less effective, but also are "reusable". And they can capture victims alive.

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 09, 2021, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Drukathi on Mar 09, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
tbh, never understood how the idea of Burster can work at all? Aliens ain't ants. They cannot reproduce freely. For each xeno, you need a victim. And very stupid, it seems to me, to have a creature that is born only to self-destroy. In addition, it can kill potential hosts. Moreover, other xeno: warriors, drones, runners are no less effective, but also are "reusable". And they can capture victims alive.

You're completely correct. Even in game terms, it makes more sense to just have some or all of the normal ones with highly pressurised circulatory systems so they splurt extra blood when injured and/or explode upon death.

Excellent takes.

Kailem

Kailem

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Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 09, 2021, 09:28:40 PM
Can't believe I completely agree with both Kailem and Drukathi!


Voodoo Magic

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 09, 2021, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: PraetorianX101 on Mar 09, 2021, 09:23:19 PM
I agree with what's been said, but technically the Burster isn't suicidal. Unlike the Boilers from Colonial Marines, it doesn't attempt to manually self-destruct. It behaves just like most other Aliens and attempts to attack its prey with its claws. The added function of exploding is just there to serve as one last **** you to whoever killed it.

I'll take your word on this one, in which case, it's just uninspired design for the model, there's other ways to signal this to the players than a giant glowing head.

Just look at this beauty! Just soak it in. Let it grow on you... :laugh:



But I think it's important to keep some of these designs in context of (hopefully) a very fun video game.

BlueMarsalis79

It looks like something's growing on him actually, in fact, the acidic bulbs evoke cancerous growths, to me on both the Spitter and Burster.

I like the general idea behind the Prowler and the majority of the design, but the head's not quite right, and I actually appropriately think identically of the Runner itself we can see here.

But the Warrior and Drone look spot on.

PAS Spinelli

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 09, 2021, 09:44:06 PM
It looks like something's growing on him actually, in fact, the acidic bulbs evoke cancerous growths, to me on both the Spitter and Burster.

I like the general idea behind the Prowler and the majority of the design, but the head's not quite right, and I actually appropriately think identically of the Runner itself we can see here.

But the Warrior and Drone look spot on.
Yeah, both look like they are creatures in pain that are mutants, SPECIALLY the Spitter, which shows clear sign of what looks like decay or incomplete growth in it's head

Samhain13

Samhain13

#71
Not the best Praetorian design but I will try to stay positive.

Vrastal

Vrastal

#72
the redish one is the design i like the least.

I think the bursters work simply as a more defensive type alien or one used to break down defenses.

PAS Spinelli

I really dislike the Preatorian till we saw it from the side, she looks great! She's got a Queen legs and her arms seem about to turn into a Queen's one, her torso is also "short" in relation to the rest of the body, just like the Queen's

[cancerblack]

Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 09, 2021, 10:12:49 PM
Not the best Praetorian design but I will try to stay positive.

As a connoisseur of praetorians, which one do you like the most?

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