Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Nov 02, 2008, 10:16:43 PM
Quote from: Milan on Nov 01, 2008, 11:43:16 PM
Well, if Ripley 8 would fight an unarmed Predator then you need to think about how a Predator would fight her, he wouldn't claw her or bite her, he would punch/ kick her to death with singular heavy blows or break her neck.
Picture the fight in your mind and how it would effect the predator if he gets burned by her acid and if it happens how would the predator react and adjust his fighting to it.
If he doesn't know then he'll probably find out when he rips her spine and skull, but then she's already dead.
he'll lose a hand or arm.
Ripley 8 is a bigger problem for Dracula than a Predator 
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And she would dodge and block those hits; she's not a brittle human being, you know. And even though she isn't a full-blooded Alien, she still is fast, 'durable' and vicious. The Predator is not going to have an easy time here... especially if he's arrogant and cocky, because if he is, well, then he'll be in a world of hurt... It might be Ripley 8 who stand there, holding his head while dangling with his spine.
Yup, it could end that way to or they decide to team up, get kiddies and live happily ever after
Joking aside, acid do play a part if Ripley 8 and a Predator should fight but I think the part it would play is overrated.
But if I should describe a Predator and Ripley with one word for each, then the Predator would be described as a hunter, Ripley would be described as a survivor.
So if they fight Ripley should be the last one standing, not because the traits she got from the Alien but because it's in her character to cheat death.
QuoteQuote from: Milan on Nov 01, 2008, 11:43:16 PM
Yes, your right about the role Alien plays within the comics.
But in AVP they play a different part, they are a part of a young Predators right of passage,
I'll provide an example.
Let's talk about sex
A right of passage ain't about losing your virginity, it's about reaching an age when you're allowed to f**k legally.
In EU the Predator has the braiding of his hair as a right of passage, after that he has the status as unblooded. Any Predator are allowed to hunt the Alien but an unblooded Predator wouldn't stand a chance so it ain't that common, in the comics it's mostly young bloods and blooded that hunts the Alien.
And hunting is their reason for living, if they can't hunt or feel like they are about to lose against a prey then they'll kill themselves.
The Alien is the ultimate prey in the comics, in the movies it's me turning 15 (legal age for having sex in Sweden).
Ok, I don't know what you're getting at here... but, ok, let's go for it: to me the Aliens seem to be revered as the ultimate pray in the movies as well. The humans are, so to speak, just vessels catering the treats (the treats of death that is). And to me Scar & Co didn't seem to be that unexperienced at all. Gill even had a rack of skulls on his back (those skulls have to come from somewhere...) and Celtic's melee fighting skills were far superior to all his brothers' (especially when compared to Wolf who's the most sluggish oaf ever to possess dreads and a pair of wrist blades). It seems more like the Pyramid Hunting Game is something that only the most daring and skilled Predators would indulge, whereas regular Predators rather go for unsupervised fun spontaneous hunts in the outdoors where they have the upper hand no matter the prey.
Well, my take on the skulls is that they were ceremonial wear, not trophy's from previous hunts,
cause he wasn't allowed to hunt before the right of passage, that's why they were at the pyramid in the first place, it's a "coming of age" ritual, only after the right of passage are they allowed to hunt and collect trophy's.
Second to this is, what do you think would be a greater challenge, hunt Aliens in a populated area in town or city or within that pyramid, the pyramids is like a big game hunter going on safari...to the nearest zoo.
The Pyramid reminds me of a labyrinth, and the Predators and Aliens within it has the role as the Minotaur.
And to Predator traditions and culture the right of Passage is huge, these creatures won't go on living if they lose their status as hunters, even if they lose it temporarely, this is how big trophy hunting is to them.
It ain't hard to figure that out, just look at Pussyface and Anytime. Pussyface would have survived a fall from that distance, still he decided to commit suicide. That was only because Key's and his men managed to surprise him, they where stalking him, made him prey then Harrigan jumped in shot him and managed to jump him again at the roof top, that was enough for Pussyface to try to end his life, cause during that hunt he lost his status as hunter, for a short period be became the prey...
Being a hunter, It ain't a way of life, it's life to them.
My take on the three Predators that went into the Pyramids is that they only had practised their skills, Scar was good but it was his first battle.
He was like a karateka, one that has spent many years practised the martial art but never once used it in a real fight before.
I think that Anderson didn't know the difference between a unblooded, young blood and blooded Predator and the role the right of passage played to the creature.
He thought that right of passage and unblooded was the same thing.
To bad that he didn't respect that he had 20 years of heritage to maintain.
And the brothers Strause, claiming to be Predator fans...
The Predators are hunters, if they travel within a clan or tribe they got a elder being in charge.
A Predator ain't a cleaner, he is a hunter. He doesn't answer to a "Godfather", he answer to an elder...
Wolf was a cleaner, cleaning up evidence of the Alien on earth...
...then why transport alive facehuggers to earth in the first place.
