Alien V - Facts and Rumors Compilation (Provide Links)

[Marc505]

Fantastic video, thank you for taking the time and effort to put it together and get it out there!

I think I file this movie concept alongside the AvP anime; fascinating to hear more about and read into, but certainly relieved it never came to pass.

[Nukiemorph]

I'm curious if this is what Sigourney meant by "Ridley's gone in a different direction." (That silly Ridley attributing the ship to the race that was piloting it, as opposed to being barfed up by bugs.)

Though she said that when asked about the Walter Hill treatment, so maybe not.

[Mr. Joe]

Bad Neil after Demonic, Elizjum  Old Elen Ripley ...   Good concept art, Space Jockey Derelict  ...
Give new characters Machiko, cap Glass, Amanda, Zula, Alec ...  W-Y Commando, Marines, Yautja / Ptrdators, Space Jockeys, Predalien, Red Aliens, King .. 

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The response so far has been awesome, thank you all for watching! Most of you are reacting very similarly to when I got the info. I'm probably tempting fate by even sharing the info. If I randomly stop posting or the video disappears, it was Disney who pulled the trigger!!!

Clearing some things up from some of the questions I've seen:

The impression I got was that that DNA was found in the derelict ship we see in ALIEN. Not in building a new one. It hints at somehow humans and Xenos being connected in the past. How? I don't have that information. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I too dig the idea of the ship being grown. But just not like this.

The information was given to me very broken up, and very incomplete. There's a lot more I know, but a whole lot more that's unknown to me too. So I can't really answer a lot of the "how?". I've been asking that since the day I was educated on all this stuff. So things like the film title, I don't know. The title of Ridley's next film kept being referred to as Destiny, but I don't know if it was planned as a placeholder or not. I'd heard "Awakening" for Blomkamp's, but I did not have enough confirmation to put that one in the video. Did Ridley call it something like that once?

I do believe the jockeys would be involved in some way, we see the Xeno mech suit having Jockey-like features, along with some of that Xeno concept art showing one in a chair.

Blomkamp wanted a lot of control. He cited creative differences, which I think was him butting heads with Fox when they gave him some "no"s on this stuff. He likely paid for all of this stuff going on behind the scenes out of his own pocket, which could add to his frustration on it not seeing the light of day. Ultimately, it wasn't Ridley saying no and calling the shots, it was Fox.

I wish I had remembered O'Bannon's comments about the xenomorph, that does almost line up with some of the Blomkamp stuff. Very interesting point!

I'll try to keep up with questions, but again, I don't have all the answers to give. But will try if I can! Also will respond when I have time. After fighting with this video so much to get it uploaded, I needed to step away and take some space from. I was quite frustrated with the delays, but glad it's out there for you all to finally see.

Great short documentary that neatly collates all the news and discussions posted on here over all the years. You should consider doing a feature length documentary film (ala Jodorowsky's Dune) one day if you can force Neill Blomkamp to sit down and talk about it.

What was the copyright notice you got slammed for in the initial upload? Background music? Doubt Disney would take this down. Or you for that matter.

I'd heard "Awakening" for Blomkamp's, but I did not have enough confirmation to put that one in the video. Did Ridley call it something like that once?

Wasn't "Awakening" supposed to be the last film in Ridley's prequel trilogy?

I think Blomkamp's project went under the codename "Red Harvest".

[Nightmare Asylum]

The first time we heard the name "Awakening" it was attributed to Ridley's third prequel, but later on another interview (I forget with who) cited it as being a name for Blomkamp's film, not Ridley's (and now we know that Ridley's was using the name "Destiny"). But "Awakening" doesn't really gel with the interview Mike sourced for his video in which Blomkamp makes mention that the title, which is being kept hidden for now, is pretty spoilery as to what is going on in the film. "Awakening" seems a little to vague/generic to hold that kind of weight...

The impression I got was that that DNA was found in the derelict ship we see in ALIEN. Not in building a new one. It hints at somehow humans and Xenos being connected in the past. How? I don't have that information. It doesn't make sense to me at all.

This actually does make a bit of sense to me, pre-Covenant, before we saw David make the Alien and when all we knew about ancient history from Prometheus was that human and Engineer DNA matched, and that the Engineers likely had an ancient past with the Aliens (evidenced by the Pathogen). Maybe it was the ideas in circulation at that time that Blomkamp was riffing on?

Mike, do you happen to know if/how "Destiny's" pre-production overlapped with the tail end of Blomkamp's film's, if at all?

And another question, do you happen to know anything about the "Alien: Paradise Lost" iteration of the Prometheus sequel, from before it became Alien: Covenant?

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I think this may have been concept art for the "space elevator's" base station that was supposed to have been a major feature in Blomkamp's film rather than the W-Y HQ.

[skhellter]

The impression I got was that that DNA was found in the derelict ship we see in ALIEN. Not in building a new one. It hints at somehow humans and Xenos being connected in the past. How? I don't have that information.

Prometheus was out at the time. It's most definitely Engineer DNA which (according to that infamous bit in Prometheus) is a 100% MATCH with HUMAN DNA 

considering that there's a lot of hearsay about this detail of the movie, i bet a lot's been misunderstood, lost in the telling.

What makes some sense to me is if the Aliens build (very durable) biomechanical material nests out of their victims - and it would make sense for the Engineers to see this as prized material, they would then go in, exterminate the aliens, retrieve the nests, insert their own tech in there and build proper SHIPS with it. It would maybe go some way to explain why there's a Deacon mural in LV223 - They worship these creatures and others of its ilk. It would explain why the derelict ships look "grown" rather than built, it would explain why the cave under the Derelict in the original movie looks like a technological/aesthetic extension of the Derelict ship itself (the aliens would've built that after the Engineers lose control of the situation).

[BlueMarsalis79]

I do not like the idea of removing the other from Alien. Nor monsters being genetically manipulated to make more toyettic versions. Nor the return of legacy characters.

No, not for me.

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The first time we heard the name "Awakening" it was attributed to Ridley's third prequel, but later on another interview (I forget with who) cited it as being a name for Blomkamp's film, not Ridley's (and now we know that Ridley's was using the name "Destiny"). But "Awakening" doesn't really gel with the interview Mike sourced for his video in which Blomkamp makes mention that the title, which is being kept hidden for now, is pretty spoilery as to what is going on in the film. "Awakening" seems a little to vague/generic to hold that kind of weight...

Unless the film was going to be called Alien: Red Harvest. Harvesting of human DNA...

Always figured the "Red Harvest" was just a riff on Lucas' "Blue Harvest" ("horror beyond imagination") and used as a codename for the project. Perhaps it was the real name then?

I don't think Elysium and Chappie had any codenames. They were just Chappie and Elysium from the start, weren't they?

Blomkamp being a gamer was likely heavily inspired by the Mass Effect trilogy which was still quite big at the time he wrote the treatment for this film.

Reapers harvest organic lifeforms...

[Nightmare Asylum]

Just speculating here, I wonder if maybe the "human DNA" in the Derelict might be the result of Blomkamp having to change something for Ridley, in light of the prequels? Perhaps in Blomkamp's original iteration it was distinct Space Jockey DNA that formed the backbone (heh) of the ship and Ridley mandated that it be identical to human DNA, so has to preserve what he had set up in Prometheus with the Engineers?

[426Buddy]

What a terrible idea. Jockey's growing the ship is one thing but having the Aliens grow an intersellar starship from human material is just soooo stupid. I won't even start on the queen mech suit or the many hybrids or the bursting of mini huggers....  Now the fansplaining starts, trying and rationalise the ideas and make them sound better.

I'll forever be thankful that this was scrapped. I'll even take David the creator over this.

Even Romulus is going to play with mutations and different creatures. I've been thinking that if you can't make an interesting movie focusing on the titular Alien then this series should have just ended with A3.

[0321recon]

What a terrible idea. Jockey's growing the ship is one thing but having the Aliens grow an intersellar starship from human material is just soooo stupid. I won't even start on the queen mech suit or the many hybrids or the bursting of mini huggers....  Now the fansplaining starts, trying and rationalise the ideas and make them sound better.

I'll forever be thankful that this was scrapped. I'll even take David the creator over this.

Even Romulus is going to play with mutations and different creatures. I've been thinking that if you can't make an interesting movie focusing on the titular Alien then this series should have just ended with A3.

Totally agree. No amount of fansplaining will salvage this dumpster fire. Glad at the end of the day Alien³ survived this.

[T Dog]

I'm a little baffled that studio execs and Sigourney were so excited about this idea.

The executives were probably excited by "Ripley/Hicks/ALIENS" cash in nostalgia, and Weaver was probably excited about another go at playing Ripley; VS specific ideas that, as we see them now on paper, look terrible.

[Nightmare Asylum]

For what it's worth, it was the executives that killed this movie off, though seemingly it had nothing to do with the quality or content of the idea and more to do with the quantity and them not wanting to commit to two projects. Of the two, I'm glad we got Covenant, which remains a highlight of the franchise for me.

That being said, the idea of the Aliens building/growing structures is one that intrigues me (even though most of this project's other ideas don't really do it for me much at all), even (or, perhaps, especially) if it is just as a "What If" scenario. I do want to see this project explored in that fashion, as a book or comic or something, a la Gibson's scripts.

[Thatguy2068]

And there people that think this movie would save this franchise. I think this movie would've been more of a franchise killer than what covenant did with the alien.