Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 07, 2015, 08:50:44 AM
Two totally different things. True, all on-screen portrayals of AVP so far have sucked, but that doesn't mean the concept doesn't have potential.
So does excusing the illogical teleporting egg and mysteriously appearing Nostromo cryotube, as a delusion. What amtters is the story which results from it - and it would at least allow us to preserve Weyland-Yutani and show the original egg chamber was explored. I still don't know why Whedon decided to effectively erase those two elements for the heck of it.
QuoteThe "It was a dream!" argument is just infantile. I mean come on, I was taught how lame that is as a plot device in primary school.
I'm not saying they couldn't have made better sequels. But arbitrarily undoing what we got in such an immature fashion is silly.
Cheaply killing off Hicks/Newt could also be said to be infantile. Their deaths served no purpose which keeping them in stasis (or jettisoned off to an unknown separate location) couldn't have also achieved.
Ultimately, retconning a previous film is essentially a way to rectify bad plot decisions. But as I say, it
is a gamble. After so very long, I wouldn't feel comfortable with anyone making such a gamble (and that includes Cameron, because his movies after '
The Abyss' feel like they're helmed by a completely different creative visionary).
Quote from: Russ on Jan 07, 2015, 11:03:11 AM
I'm struggling with this - you're right of course, but why was Burke acting like such the nice guy at the front end, being all helpful and caring? He "acts" like he's on her side from the get go, even up to the "you had your chance, Gorman!" bit. whereas we know he's a self-serving sleazebag. I don't know the answer - but, I still like the idea that her demise is unknown to us.
Yeah, but that's just it. He's self-serving. He doesn't have some kind of giant, over-arcing plan. He was being opportunistic. Even if he
was lying about Amanda, it would've been a stupid move to pull, because Ellen could have - and
would have - looked up information by herself from third-party sources.
Sure, another story
could start out that way, but it doesn't strike me as in character for her not to have bothered to do that. Right after '
Alien', she was at her
most paranoid about the company's intentions. In fact, it's probably that very motivation which caused her to double-check everything to the hilt and discover Burke sent the transmission for the colonists to investigate.
Also, look at it logically: If you're saying his motivation to lie about Amanda having adventures with Aliens, was to gain Ripley's trust, he in no way achieves that goal. She's constantly sceptical about anything the company says/does and apparently isn't even an employee anymore. He has to dangle employment as a lure to get her to go on the mission. Until she does, it looks like she's a free agent.
Quote from: szkoki on Jan 07, 2015, 11:36:27 AM
no matter what, Sigourney is too old for action movies and i dont want to see new actor in that role. and Prometheus is the Alien franchise for a few couple years
I disagree. She was fine in '
Cabin in The Woods' and the following year's '
Vamps'. Not to mention '
Avatar' - and she's apparently signed up for
future sequels to that.
What's the most athletic stuff Ripley's done, anyway? Run a bit fast and shot some guns?