Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 15, 2011, 08:57:59 AM
Could you provide examples?
I have gher mainly sticking up for Fincher [saying nothing about the film's quality] and saying of the movie experience: "Um ... we had a lot of laughs ... I liked the dog Alien."
Which are the only hits I'm getting on google since the Anthology was released. It borders on the Anth discussion as well as her interview she released right before Alien 3 was released. Used to be several more popped up as soon as you typed "Alien 3+sigourney weaver,". But I'm also fairly certain I heard similar comments in either the preproduction phase of the quad or in the Alien Saga release. I'll look at it sometime later, but tomorrow I'll spend all day in Louisville and I still have to get my 2 miles in tonight.
QuoteThis is going to come down to our perspectives.
Probably.
QuoteI'd like the see 'em, but I'm still not convinced that Ripley in Alien 3 was radically new.
There isn't any character in the Alien series that is radically new character wise. But Alien 3 allowed her to explore aspects of the Ripley character she hadn't got to before.
QuoteIt's an incomparable situation. No human has been projected 60 years into the future and pitted against an Alien horde [again], only to have their lives further destroyed. I've known people hurt themselves over pittances. It is a people-by-people thing, but to say that Ripley isn't in anguish after her experiences...
Never said she wasn't in anguish. Simply said she can survive it without killing herself.
QuoteIt doesn't matter, she made a demand and was beaten down for it, physically and verbally. Of course she had it in her when she went into the furnace - which I've been arguing, it was the point of no return.
Beaten down? If Dillon wanted to beat Ripley down she wouldn't be walking. She got in his face. He got in hers. He picked her up, and held her against the bars and then said you can help me or get lost. The choice was hers.
Getting shoved around AFTER you get in people's face doesn't constitute getting beaten down. If he knocked all her teeth out and broke her arm, that'd be a different story. His "verbal assault," would've had no more affect on her character that Morse's comment about shoving her head through a f**king wall did.
QuoteErr, didn't the Nostromo crew have divisions, made jokes about eating 'something else', treated one another with contempt, bickered throughout the experience etc? The marines have a laugh over breakfast and are suspicious of a woman who returned from a job the only surivor, everyone else dead. Both Weaver and Cameron have commented that the Marines [and others] suspected Ripley of some subterfuge, considering the outlandish story, completely understandable. On the other hand, the prisoners raped women and fondled kids. I know who I'd rather be with.
It's not a question over who would you rather be like but rather the disposable nature of certain characters. There were Marines that were there to simply show how badass the Aliens were. Just like there was Prisoners. Alien 3 merely had the quantity. But the story was Ripley's and thus those characters aside from Dillon, Morse, Aaron, and Clemens were just there to further the action. Just like the Marine characters of people like Dietrich, Spunkmeir, Crowe, and Weirzbowski.
QuoteReally?
She seemed like good peeps. She was likeable in the short instance she was in there. Certainly much more so than EITHER Prisoner or Marine, but she wasn't a great character because she was likeable.